actually gas is cheap…i think it should be priced higher…(i am not being sarcastic, i am actually serious)
im outi
Roberth
Let me guess you ride the bus to work:sad:
Sadly, farming is one of the most polluting industries. Cow farts and fetilizer seems to own the enviroment.
Also farmers and oil producers are traditional lobbyers so Bush would be benefiting one or the other. I mean there is a mandated law requring that a certain amount of ethnal be in every mixture of gas, which actually pollutes more than the Califorinian blend. That was put there for corn producers.
I assume that the sugar lobbyists in Brazil are pretty strong so that could be one reason that sugar is used there and not here.
But, it looks like the government will do something because the politicans will most likely be voted out of office if they don’t do something about gas prices.
Not the best article on gas but it looks like government might give a $100 rebate or remove the taxes on gas for the summer.
Biodiesel and ethanol alternatives work in the short term, if you don’t think too hard about where the energy is coming from. The energy it takes to actually grow the stuff, that adds up. The fertilizer (oil derivative) needed to start the growth process, this adds up. As this all adds up, the energy that we’re going to need to make the stuff far outweighs the energy we get out of it. Brazil’s ethanol power is based on sugar cane. The EROEI on sugar cane or corn to produce ethanol is 1 to 6. As in, it takes 6 units of energy to create ethanol to produce 1. This is not a solution, this is making the world’s energy problem considerably WORSE.
http://www.energybulletin.net/5062.html
If you’ve been reading stories on the gas problem, finally (FINALLY) the magic words are starting to be used. Demand outpacing supply. We aren’t 100% of the way in the light yet. People are blaming this on middle east tensions (even though our #1 supplier of oil is that terrorist stronghold of CANADA). Or they blame it on Katrina. But the magic words are there. Demand outpacing supply. In a couple years or so, people are going to sit down and realize why exactly demand is outpacing supply. And by then the cat will be out of the bag.
We are running out of oil. Period. Politicians can dicker about it, and threaten/cajole the oil industry to stop making money on what little they have left. But the bottom line is that as the world becomes more and more industrialized and our demand keeps growing, with oil discovery failing repeatedly, we’re just going to have to look back at those magic words.
Demand. Outpacing. Supply.
–Jay Snyder
Viscant@aol.com
People are also forgeting that maybe all this is a good thing. As oil starts to get more expensive people will start investing in more research for alternaive sources of energy.
I have a D16Y7, until I swap my car, gas isn’t a problem.
Edit: Screw alternative fuels. Do we really need cars that can’t even reach Ohio’s speedlimit of 55 mph?
You think that alternative fuels make your car slower???
3 mother fucking 49 here
Ha Ha! I drive an Echo!
ya i think about what i write…
the relative price of gas compared to what it was in the past is cheap…it is definately not more expensive…
additionally gas should continue to rise to teach people how faulty our city planning and layouts are…
jay talks about alternate sources of energy instead of oil which is cool, but you can look at alternate methods of fuel sources (not needing them at all). for example, build cities vertically instead of horizontally and so wide spread. it will eliminate the need for traveling with cars and improve polution conditions…
looking for alternate fuel sources is cool but it can be done other ways, such as the example i provided above (that also helps the enviroment in more than one way).
im outi
Roberth
You might be thinking about Flex fuel, which is different. Flex, can use normal, or E-185, and when in normal fuel mode, have regular power. That is different than only alternative.
Most alternative fuel cars are engineered to be slow, and uninvolving to drive. Just get where you have to go, and that’s about it. But when they start making cars that run on piss or whatever, there will be a ton of Smartcar looking POS’s with like 55 horsepower and CVT automatics.
As long as they keep these overengineered pieces of shit optional, it’s all good. It’s if they become standard theres problems…
Slightly related to the topic, but remember the plot in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Where Doom wanted to buy out the trolley system and destroy Toon Town to make room for the LA Freeway? It was actually based on fact… in the 1950s General Motors was found guilty in a federal court of criminal antitrust, over a conspiracy to phase out the electric rail trolley systems (or ‘Red Cars’) so cities in the US could become dependent on motor vehicles…
Check this shit out:
100 mile per gallon carburetor
You can Yahoo or Google it to find articles about it.
We all could being saving tons of cash, but you can blame Exxon and all the big oil companies for buying out the patents and stuffing this sucker on the back shelf hiding it from the public. I found this out yesterday on a student film shoot when I was talking to my friend Annie and one of the main actors. We were talking about gas prices and the two of them brought up this carburetor. According to Annie and the actor I talked to yesterday, apparently the guy who invented this particular carburetor sold the patents and all things associated with the carb for $1billion.
If this thing hit the shelf and he refused the oil companies offers/threats/etc., he could have made much more money.
That’s sick. It’s $2.89 here and I’m still complaining. I’m tryin to get a job closer to the house so I don’t have to drive as far…
chevron down the street from my job has lost their fuccin mind… 3.25 to start an premium is 3.43
that joint looks naked everytime i drove by…
plus i hear our metro train system has been packed to the brink…
Prices started going down here (somewhat)
$2.79
$2.89
$2.99
And seriously, I don’t care what ya’ll say - my shit feels “heavy” cause I started putting regular in it I tried Mid Grade and it doesn’t feel like shit now but it’s still not as peppy.
Well in Van Nuys it’s $3.53 at Chevron and Shell for regular, it’s cheaper by a couple cents in some other parts of the Valley, but it’s all pretty much the same. I don’t even bother looking at premium cause my car doesn’t need it, but it’s somewhere around $3.80 or so.
$3.21-$3.41
my 4 cylinder BMW gets the job done, only fill up about once a month, and i drive alot.
BMW’s come in 4 cylinders???