I don’t, that’s why I want it to be last so I can go to bed earlier and not past midnight
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Nah I need like 3 more FE characters and Dante.
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We didn’t get any formal acknowledgement of all the spiking drinks stuff that happened last year, did we?
Anybody gonna mention that?
Little kids take their switches to school to play Smash.
FGs can’t compete with that type of nonsense. Because of the way the switch works, Smash is well ahead of the curve as far as selling and creating more potential players.
The numbers game is way on their side by leaps and bounds.
Tekken may be growing, but its still 1.5k behind Smash.
Evo 2019 Final Numbers!
Smash Ultimate - 3492
Street Fighter V - 1929
Tekken 7 - 1885
Samurai Shodown - 1719
Mortal Kombat 11 - 1567
Unist - 1156
DragonBall FighterZ - 1191
Soul Calibur 6 - 742
BlazBlue:CTB - 640
Even tekken at its best still isn’t as big as Smash.
So I don’t know what you made think SF5 was going to stay at 5K regardless. There is a good chunk of people going to Evo like a spectacle rather than showing up to be part of a big event for the community. Wanna know why SF5 at 5K was unsustainable? These are the Evo 2015 numbers
- Ultra Street Fighter IV – 2227.
- Super Smash Bros. for Wii U – 1926.
- Super Smash Bros. Melee – 1869.
See USF4 at 2.2k? Where did the extra 3K people come from? Oh yeah, stream monsters that were gonna jump on the new game, get bodied, feel good about themselves and call it a day.
Hell that year Smash was bigger as a scene than USF4 and MKX combined. You’re just flapping your gums because the numbers blow you up. It has fuck all to do with MvCi.
Smash is a wack ass community that cried and whined their way into Evo and now Evo is shittier for it.
Hold. Dat.
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Breh I’m telling you, if you play in our little group you will steadily level up. 
I know FlyingVe has improved greatly since the first time I played him. He could easily make it to super diamond if he decided to grind rank. We all learn from each other no ego’s here.
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Fuck all that, I gotta whoop your ass since you decided to randomly start playing more as soon as I said I was taking a break.
You spot dodging mofo.
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There is salt though.
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Tekken is hard and even then it’s grown more than SFV. It’s not the type of game that can pull those numbers. SF and Smash are the franchises that can. SFV didn’t need to stay at 5k, just not be garbage and drop below 2k.
The numbers blow you up the same way it did MvCI and Capcom stans alike. Y’all mad at Smash headlining and want SF there cause legacy and nostalgia, but the current iteration is fucking balls. Same shit with MvCI and peeps thought it deserved bigger on namesake alone.
Only SF folk and old heads cry bout being beat by a kiddy game. I didn’t even like SFIV, but atleast it didn’t stagnate and fall off the earth the way SFV has. 
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I do tho.
I also want Smash 64. The real Smash FG.
UMvC3 was already on its last legs for 2 years when MvCi came out.
Either cite some data or GTFO. You literally have nothing backing your argument other than “lol well sF5 sucks”.
Aight, but even if SF5 was great it was still going to get bodied the same way the rest of the games in the scene are getting bodied. Only difference is that Smash dragged down KI to have two games in it.
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Ok so i wasn’t at home to check before but mp dp gives oki too. So that 4f access argument is out. Idk if thats new but its basically the same +22/27 kd. Hp dp is closer by half a big square but its still choose the same meaty options or step forward at unreactable range and throw.
Also i went back and watched finals again and she stole a ton of rounds on vtrigger. Can’t call it bad when it wins that many rounds.
Who are all these characters that loop every kd into choose your own adventure? They’re probably gonna be all top tier. Thats great if its there but i said “good”.
The argument is not for it being amazing. Its that it’s not awful or dreadful or poor. Those words are for characters that only get oki in corners or they have to spend bar or meet super specific criteria.
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Thanks for reminding me of another reason I downplay myself all the time
Your really good footsies?
'Cause Imma keep doing that until you reach your full potential.
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I get mad as fuck when I lose lol
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The only reason other games are thriving is because sf5 is so suspect.
If we got what we have now at launch I think we’d see growth with 5.
At this point people are either dealing with it, fed up or have moved on.
But I definitely think a big reason other games are getting to shine right now is because Capcom keeps screwing up there games upon launch…
Sf5 and mvci
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Do we have a full list of frame advantage for VT cancels off certain normals/specials? Might be useful to make if it doesn’t exist yet.
FAT has it for I think everything before the Gill patch. So it should accurate for everything that wasn’t changed in the patch notes.
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I didn’t even think to check there. One of the 100s of apps on my phone I forget about existing lol
Other fighting games are doing good and SFV’s mediocre quality is more then likely a factor. I wonder how will this influence Capcom’s decision on releasing SF6.
Will they risk releasing SF 6 in a time where the competition is fierce ?
Will they wait for the successful titles to lose momentum ?
Will they rush another half baked product down the line ?
CFN frame data has it.
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