He also thought that was Reverse Flash thus a homicidal murderer so…
As someone once stated to me: Keep in mind, this is the same facility where everyone and their mama has been able to just stroll into.
Hell, “Jay” walked in two seconds after Caitlin said they beefed up security…
Jay is gonna either be Zolomon or a future Jay that became evil later on in his life.
is this better than arrow? that’s what i heard
At this point that’s no longer saying much.

BigDewey:
Like Cisco or Caitlin were out, they should’ve gotten some kind of security alert on their phones at the least. But somehow Zoom knew their security well enough to bypass it. That alone was enough of a clue to tell Zoom was someone close to Barry.
As someone once stated to me: Keep in mind, this is the same facility where everyone and their mama has been able to just stroll into.
Yeah, remember when Merlyn and his goons showed up outta nowhere…
Whatever Flash does, it’ll be hard to come back from this. They put too much in the Reverse Flash. Villain be from the future? Check. Mentor be the villain? Check. Villain being able to make copies of himself? Check. Villain impersonating somebody else? Check. So what is a new and clever way to explain Jay, who’s supposed to be a mentor, turns out to be evil, and holding the body of another Jay?
This is a huge ass pull, but may POSSIBLY work: So Earth-2 Flash is Jay, he takes Velocity and becomes evil, turning into Zoom. He goes into Earth-1, finds his double (Hunter Zolomon) and forces/coerces Zolomon to work for him. Zolomon pretends to be Jay but without powers, while the real Jay runs around as Zoom. Sometimes they switch if need be. This explains how Zoom is evil, how Zoom can be holding a dead “Jay”, how the reveal of Zolomon at the park happened (because they planned that interaction), and doesn’t touch time travel/speed clone.
The whole story asspull wouldnt even matter if Barry found his falls for a second instead of crying all day. “Am gonna go and train! chest puft”. 2 Seconds later hes crying to somebody else about being a bitch.
Guy is getting on Ippo tier with having all this power but not being able to use it. Show some attitude young nigga.

At this point that’s no longer saying much.
So much truth in one sentence.

Whatever Flash does, it’ll be hard to come back from this. They put too much in the Reverse Flash. Villain be from the future? Check. Mentor be the villain? Check. Villain being able to make copies of himself? Check. Villain impersonating somebody else? Check. So what is a new and clever way to explain Jay, who’s supposed to be a mentor, turns out to be evil, and holding the body of another Jay?
That’s actually a really good point. They put a lot of stock into the Reverse Flash being a monumental villain, which they then called into question the entire time-travel theory when he reappeared this season as a “time remnant” which didn’t make much sense no matter how many times I rewatched it. I truly do wonder where they’re going with this season. I’m hopeful, but I’m worried.

BigDewey:
Like Cisco or Caitlin were out, they should’ve gotten some kind of security alert on their phones at the least. But somehow Zoom knew their security well enough to bypass it. That alone was enough of a clue to tell Zoom was someone close to Barry.
As someone once stated to me: Keep in mind, this is the same facility where everyone and their mama has been able to just stroll into.
Yeah, remember when Merlyn and his goons showed up outta nowhere…

Whatever Flash does, it’ll be hard to come back from this. They put too much in the Reverse Flash. Villain be from the future? Check. Mentor be the villain? Check. Villain being able to make copies of himself? Check. Villain impersonating somebody else? Check. So what is a new and clever way to explain Jay, who’s supposed to be a mentor, turns out to be evil, and holding the body of another Jay?
This is a huge ass pull, but may POSSIBLY work: So Earth-2 Flash is Jay, he takes Velocity and becomes evil, turning into Zoom. He goes into Earth-1, finds his double (Hunter Zolomon) and forces/coerces Zolomon to work for him. Zolomon pretends to be Jay but without powers, while the real Jay runs around as Zoom. Sometimes they switch if need be. This explains how Zoom is evil, how Zoom can be holding a dead “Jay”, how the reveal of Zolomon at the park happened (because they planned that interaction), and doesn’t touch time travel/speed clone.
We already know why there a re 2 Zooms/Jays, Samething when Reverse Flash beat up Wells…

Gamegeezer:
BigDewey:
Like Cisco or Caitlin were out, they should’ve gotten some kind of security alert on their phones at the least. But somehow Zoom knew their security well enough to bypass it. That alone was enough of a clue to tell Zoom was someone close to Barry.
As someone once stated to me: Keep in mind, this is the same facility where everyone and their mama has been able to just stroll into.
Yeah, remember when Merlyn and his goons showed up outta nowhere…
FOBio:
Whatever Flash does, it’ll be hard to come back from this. They put too much in the Reverse Flash. Villain be from the future? Check. Mentor be the villain? Check. Villain being able to make copies of himself? Check. Villain impersonating somebody else? Check. So what is a new and clever way to explain Jay, who’s supposed to be a mentor, turns out to be evil, and holding the body of another Jay?
This is a huge ass pull, but may POSSIBLY work: So Earth-2 Flash is Jay, he takes Velocity and becomes evil, turning into Zoom. He goes into Earth-1, finds his double (Hunter Zolomon) and forces/coerces Zolomon to work for him. Zolomon pretends to be Jay but without powers, while the real Jay runs around as Zoom. Sometimes they switch if need be. This explains how Zoom is evil, how Zoom can be holding a dead “Jay”, how the reveal of Zolomon at the park happened (because they planned that interaction), and doesn’t touch time travel/speed clone.
We already know why there a re 2 Zooms/Jays, Samething when Reverse Flash beat up Wells…
So you are welcoming them to be lazy and use the same trick over again?
Barry already fucking up…
When is he gonna learn to stop fuckin’ with time?

Barry already fucking up…
When is he gonna learn to stop fuckin’ with time?
When Iris actually puts out. So never.
sigh Yes Barry, this is how time travel works. You go back in time before someone dies and they’ll be alive.

Barry already fucking up…
When is he gonna learn to stop fuckin’ with time?
We only 20 minutes in and he’s already fucked up multiple times…is he even trying?
Ohhhhhh it is ON. Shit has HIT THE FAN, FOLKS. :wow: Jig is UP.
I’m sure he’s relishing the chance to be Eobard Thawne again.

Ohhhhhh it is ON. Shit has HIT THE FAN, FOLKS. :wow: Jig is UP.
Fuck I just had to be at work tonight.
What is popping off?
Excuse me while I go find my Time Travel Frying Pan to hit myself over the head with.