Hellooooo, is anyone there (knocking on fobios head). WUT!!???
People shit on iris like every week, and she still manages to be less in the way, less annoying, less selfish, and less dumb than laurel.
No one shits on speedy. She gets the second most love from arrow in friends after green arrow. Laurel just sucks. I dont know if its because her stunt double is trash, or shes actually trying to do the shit herself, but speedys double is flames. Not a shit ton of people know flashes secret that arent trustworthy short of captain cold(although hes proven to keep that ace in the hole for himself, and flash has said he doesnt care if he does, because he will still stop him), and its not really a focal point for the show, as it doesnt need to be.
Really, weāre arguing about holding superpower criminals in a special jail, which isnt even the case anymore. Theyre all gone or dead. How can he keep the lights on? The same way they were kept on before. Wells gave him everything, so just assume that whatever other investments wells had is what is keeping everything turning. They werent doing anything in season 1 when wells was around that shouldve been paying the bills either. Just assume his a multi billionaire with money and investments that keep things going without barry having to actively play the ceo role.
All those arrow villains you just mentioned were awesome as fuck, and had good plots in the arrow. UHHHH. The flash just started season 2, and arrow is in season 4 going into 5. Plus, the reverse flash was awesome, and although it seems redundant with zoom, it hasnt been in any way shape or form, plus we still get our monsters of the week usually.
Arrow isnt shit, it just had a shitty season, season 3, and there are too many people being heroes right now. Arrow is still a must weekly watch for most of us, with little to no complaint lately, but it could easily be better by just trimming some of the fat.
The Arrow is just having a rough time. Their main story this season is just not intriguing enough and the cast is just way too overpopulated. Season 3 wasnāt the best but it was certainly good. Season 2 was excellent. They can do more with the show than what theyāre doing now.
Arrow got confusing as fuck (as Flash sort of is), when they started introducing other DC characters and adding them to their teams. Itās even worse when you have no clue what direction they will head, considering the hilarity of DC not allowing them to have any of the big 3 ever show up (or get properly mentioned), and not allowing them to tie this universe in with the greater universe.
Nah, superman has shown up twice in supergirl, shes talk to him via chat like 3-4 times already, and they mention superman all the time. I was kinda shocked, as going into the show, i didnt think he was going to really be referenced at all. You see him once in the first episode for like 4 seconds, and later in another episode he shows up and saves kara. Granted you never see his face, and hes always kinda blurred, but he is very active in the supergirl universe.
I think eventually once they feel things out, there will be a few all out supergirl/superman episodes. They probably wanna wait until at least BvS drops, because then its like another 2 years before man of steel 2 and justice league i think is in 2019. During that time they may decide to slide him in the show in some fashion.
Both are annoying, but you canāt deny Laurel is more useful than Iris. Laurel was helping to hold the fort down when Ollie was away. She still beats up random henchman just as Diggle and Speedy does. What does Iris do?
My point is suspension of disbelief itself, not the individual things. You have to overlook a lot more things in the Flash than you do in Arrow. People were griping when Slade lost on the island after he broke out of that ARGUS cell, when Laurel was starting to hold her own in fights, how Ollie survived the battle against Raās and the cliff fall, etc. Whatever complaints or inconsistencies on Flash, other people just go āmeh, itās a superhero show, stop nit picking.ā By the way, they revealed Flashās secret to a girl Cisco barely started dating, where a stranger is accusing her of being somebody else. Is Kendra actually trust worthy at that point? Being on accident makes it worse because Cisco can slip and say Barryās name at any given time.
There were a series of posts a few pages back where people were saying Arrow is outdated and should end. And Iāll even quote one person:
So yeah, I interpret this to mean Arrow is shit (or at least it is now) and Flash is amazing (even though there are annoying characters, many things have to be overlooked, and the only 2 main villains so far have similar goals).
So regarding the Reverse Flash, I read heās not Earth 2 thawne, but an earlier timeline Thawne from regular flash world. People speculating heās the thawne who killed Cisco.
Yeah, i knew he wasnt earth 2, but man if he is 2nd timeline thawne from earth 1 that killed cisco, they are gonna be opening up a serious can of wtf worms with time traveling. But its the flash, might as well just jump right into the dumb shit early on, and then normalize it out in season 3 and forward. lol
So, what you are saying is that there were 2 Reverse Flashes in season 1?
Also, in the comics, the Reverse flash is called Dr. Zoom
A fight between Zoom and Thawne would be good. You know Zoom isnāt going to let Thawne kill Flash because Zoom wants the speed. Heās hooked on speedā¦
Arrow had a aweful season 3 but itās recovering nicely in season 4. The onto issue is felicity but hoepfully they will either write her out or break her up with Ollie. Flash is on a whole other level though compared to arrow and outside Iris the show is amazing.
Iris isnāt really supposed to add much to Barry though. She always was pretty much just a love interest. They arenāt using her properly, I agree, but I feel they are building her towards something. The main thing people want, is to see her and Barry together, and I feel rushing that diminishes the show.
People seem to keep equating her to Laurel though, somebody who is a bonafide super hero. What, do you want Iris to start throwing down or something?
Iris is the link to Barryās heart and humanity. Joe is there to guide him and offer him that fatherly support, but when Barry is truly lost or down, itās always Iris who helps him find his resolve.
Thatās something not even his father, or Joe can do.
Yeah, sheās pretty useless outside of that, but thatās still a necessary thing to have for a hero as full of heart and hope as The Flash.