The Emilie de Rochefort (Lili) Thread

It’s the same person it’s always been, natch. You’re just not used to her making sounds other than grunts and one-liners.

But if you’re so sure of yourself, let’s make a wager. When the credits go public, and Lili’s VA is the same as it is in DR and/or 6, you’ll have to record yourself singing “Sparking” karaoke-style and post it on Tekken Nation. If I’m wrong, I’ll do the same. Deal?

Damn, a full bar for that combo…still does good damage. I wonder if it would be better to do super in place of the last regular and EX dp.

I believe it would, seeing as that did about 55-60% on 'Gief in Seth’s IGN demo.

Perhaps counter hits do more damage. That’s how counter hits work in Tekken

ROFL I’m not that confident, i made a similar bet with t5>t6 Bryan… i’ll stay on the safe side with this one .__.

Counter hits do more damage in SF too.

Lili’s counter, she takes chip damage if she reverses a special move. Watch 1:15-1:25, you can see she loses hp when she parries the Shoryuken, how I know? She went into the 25% hp zone.

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With that i REALLY think she’ll need a slight HP buff because that counter will be really useful.

I love her but her health is ridiculous. She seems to have like Seth, about 700. Even less. She is a pretty solid character in TK, I don’t understand why Capcom always do the same to females, always poor health. I’m already sick about that.

Lili had just under 25% health left, Ryu’s F.SRK does 160 dmg in the latest AE 2012 beta build, counterhits do 25% dmg more in SFIV. So a counterhit F.SRK from Ryu does 200 dmg which would mean Lili has 800 health. Pandora Zangief SPD does around 40% dmg to Lili, which is about 320 dmg. Gief’s Fierce SPD does 230 dmg, A 35% dmg increase makes it do 310 dmg.

I don’t mind the health… since it looks like Lili has the toolset and dmg to make up for it.

I wish she had 1000 like all females. I do understand males to have higher stats in health, even characters like Zangief or Hugo having 1400. But all females being under 1000 just because they are females, it’s insane.

Theoretically speaking Males are stronger than Females, also have more durability.
Males are naturally bigger than females
If neither of them went to a gym the male will have better strength and durability by nature . Same goes if they both equally did the same training now quit your bitching kiddies
Only reason she does so much damage because she strikes the opponent A LOT in one combo

Quit bitching? Screw you.
You’re trying to tell me it makes sense for “the strongest woman in the world” Chun-Li to have shittier health than a loser like Dan simply because she’s a female?
Nice sexist logic from the 50s, GTFO.
Have you seen Poison’s body? Plus she used to be a damn street thug, she has no reason to have shitty health and low damage. Capcom is just stupid.

Lili’s low health makes sense with her high damage output, but to put a generalization of being weak on all females is just stupid.

Never said women were weak. As for Dan sure he is a loser but he still trains.

AS FOR YOU

I want you to find a guy who has the exact height and weight as you. Also does the same amount amount of training as you. Than punch each other in the face with all ya might. Than tell me who is left standing at the end of that.

Competitively speaking; I’ve bested men that are quite larger than myself, actually. You’re little scenario there is pretty moot.

The point still stands. You can’t reinforce the fact that every female in a Capcom fighter is weaker than a male simply because they’re a woman, nothing you say can validate that stance.

I’m done with this subject: Next.

Bravo:clapdos: you took down a guy who is twice your size. ONCE again I never said woman were WEAK. I’m saying someone that big hits a woman who by nature is generally smaller than a male will FEEL that punch. The heaviest SF girl is R.Mika weighing at 136 after that no one eclipses 124.

Tell me this why doesn’t a heavy weight fighters face a feather weight fighter? Sure the feather weight guy is equally strong but once that heavy weight hit’s that person he’s getting knock the FUCK out if not in one hit than three is the most that person can take. weight is also a factor when fighting.

since Street fighter is basically fantasy base, with the whole fantasy Chi aspect , they shouldn’t be compare to real life fighters. since real life fighters can’t do any of the mystical Chi stuff like firing Chi projectiles. infact Gen uses Chi to amped up his physical attacks, so Chi can be use as power boost.

edit: so my point is Street Fighter is more akin to stuff like DBZ, and Fist of the Northstar with the whole Mystical Chi aspect.

note: then there’s Rose, who’s more powerful then Chun-Li to do her mystical soul power ability that is releated to Bison’s pyscho power. however soul power is weaker than pyscho power due to a mental restraint.

No Sagatryu. The fact of the matter is that Capcom generally abides by stereotypes, and therefore it is not typical for women to have above-average health. At that, Lili is a light, rushdown, combo-character, also a woman, therefore to balance that, she has low health.

actually I was speaking canon wise, which has nothing to do with gameplay, so Chun-Li nothing have above average health has nothing to do with canon. so i I’m just saying canon wise Street fighter is more Akin to DBZ, and fist of the north star due to stuff like Akuma’s endings. take it this way characters who are natually powerful wise in canon like Akuma have low health.

Tracking headstomp?

Welp. You sold me, Capcom.