When you have conspiracy theorists with the actual power to make laws, get ready:
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Fuck you lol.
It ain’t got a damn thing to do with being pure and more with those in power doing what they need for the people. Keep throwing silly ass accusations. Not asking for saints, I’m asking for individuals that can do their fucking job, individuals that can give project confidence that the job will get done.
The right doesn’t inspire confidence in that and neither does the fucking left. We got fucking Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. It ain’t Trump no, but that sounds like fucking train wreck.
Keep talking bout undermining democracy after the DNC fucked over multiple candidates two elections in a row.
Fuck out of here with the clown shit.
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Why cant we call out both? Just because one is worse doesnt mean the other gets to slide on their dog shit. Whats with you guys and wanting us to only critisize one group while ignoring the terrible behaivor of another?
Cuz thats what you are arguing for.
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You mean like how the Dems subverted the process last year to guarantee that Biden was the Nom? Or how about before that in 2016 when they fucked the system for Hillary, lost, and got us Trump?
Shut the fuck up dude.
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People have a really hard time telling the difference between party nominations and actual state elections I see.
When the Democrats fuck over their own primaries they’re harming the democracy within their own party, and for the people who’d like to support Democrat-aligned ideas that’s really bad, and surely it should be condemned. They only fucked themselves over with that anyway.
When the Republicans try to fuck over the actual presidential elections however they’re actively harming the entirety of the state, the constitution, and the rule of law at large, not just their party or the people who are trying to work inside the Republican party. That is a couple of magnitudes worse, and severity still matters.
Whataboutism is easy and the Democrats haven’t helped themselves, but that still doesn’t help with the crisis of democracy that your country is currently facing.
Here’s the thing: you should criticize the Democrats for their shitty behaviour, the argument here is that the equivalence between Democrats and Republicans is still fundamentally false, and criticism of Democrats should wait for when the Republicans aren’t in the middle of trying a coup.
Or you can stick to your high horse and help Trumptards get 4 more years to tear the country apart I guess.
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You’re one those “blue no matter who” dumb fucks aren’t you?
Like it or not everything they’re currently trying is constitutionally protected. Do you even know what a real coup is? You can say that word when it really happens.
Quit being the democrat cliche that dumbfucks like Tim Pool and starhammer use an example for tds. You’re giving the rest of us who hold LEFTIST ideas a bad name.
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In a two-party system you’re either blue or red, and if Republicans were still in the age of nominating decent people and Democrats were nominating complete idiots I’d tell you to vote red. But we’re in the age of Republicans being overtaken by Trumpers.
Until Democrats don’t become as bad as Trumpers, you’d ever vote red with Trumpers in charge of the Republican party?
It’s definitely technically legal. Just like Republican legislatures ignoring the vote and nominating their own electors would be technically legal. It’s still a naked attack on regular democratic proceedings in the name of keeping power.
I’m giving the left a bad name because I think egregious attacks on democracy should called out and treated as seriously as they deserve? That is, not equated with Nancy Pelosi being dumb?
Oh please shut the fuck up.
Spewing the dumbest shit right now.
Legit had Dems get bodied in high position seats and they decided to hold none of the blame.
hold the criticism pls, they aren’t the real bad guys
Trumpers and Uber lefties are all cultists.
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People really have a hard time seeing others don’t approve of fuckery with our system, no matter what you label it, I see.
No they are harming the entire democratic process by loading the ballots with people they know will tow the line and return the status quo to normal. They are defying the will of the American People to force their approved puppets. How you think that’s remotely ok is fucking mind blowing and another example of why you should shut the fuck up.
Both parties hurt the entire state when they pull this bullshit and subverting the primaries is the same fucking thing. Its undermining the electoral process in order to game the system. Fuck you for thinking its not worth calling out because its just the Primaries.
It isn’t Whataboutism. Its “Both sides are engaged in fuckery and we need to buckle down and stop letting them get away with it just because the this is blue or red.” Your handwaving of big issues like Primary gaming doesn’t help solve the problem just because gaming the election is worse. Both are absolute dog shit and should be called out for the horse shit they are.
No the argument here is that both sides engage in bullshit that harms the American people and it should be called out. The only one acting like they are equivalent IS YOU and for no other reason then to try and minimize criticism of the democratic party because you dislike Trump and Republican’s more.
No one but YOU ever said they where equivalent. That’s why you are a joke. You put words in peoples mouths in order to push a narrative of going easy on the Dems because you dislike Trump so much. Well fuck you and fuck the Dems. Fuck the Rebups to, but the Dems don’t get off just because Trump wears bigger clown shoes, which is the part you don’t fucking get.
This is why you are a fucking joke. The idea that holding the Dems to a high standard is me helping Trump ruin my country for 4 more years. Hyperbolic bullshit of the highest order and why no one should pay attention to you.
Only when the Repubs do it tho. When the Dems do it like in 2016 and last year your silent as a grave.
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Yikes? If there’s an intruder in my home I don’t have time to think what their motive is for being there. Whether they are there to rob or kill, from my perspective they are a perceived threat to me and my family and I will protect myself. You don’t peacefully break into people’s houses.
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But Chad…one of them might be a psycho! Make sure you shoot the right one first because both of them in your home in the middle of the night without permission doesnt mean one of those dudes isnt worse then the other one. Be sure you ask them a 10 point personality test questionair so you know which one is worse before you shoot them.
Dont engage in this Whataboutism with burglers dude. One is worse then the other, stop acting like the two people in your home in the middle of the night without permission are equivilant!
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I’d like to believe the r party purges itself of these trump bootlickers when reality sets in that a lot of republicans don’t like trump. These fools don’t put party above country they put a conman above party above country.
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Making an analogy to home intruders from shitty politicians doesn’t really work. It was a poor example altogether.
Re: one side being worse than the other- I voted for Biden. But that doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s a shitty puh-puh-p-puh-puh-politician. I get where Phantom is coming from. Trump not conceding is extremely damaging to our country. Him poisoning half the population and encouraging division is dangerous. And not letting Biden get involved with the planning of vaccine distributions can result in more people losing their lives. All because Trump wants to throw a temper tantrum. I can agree that’s “worse” right now because it has the potential to cause loss of life and, if it continues to escalate, it will potentially lead to some of the most dire consequences we’ve ever had.
But saying that does not let the Democrats off the hook whatsoever. In 2016 when they colluded to get Hillary as the nom, that resulted in a Trump victory. Schumer is a fucking muppethead, Pelosi is disgusting. None of those assholes are working for us. Their whole agenda is to work against the other side, and we suffer for it as citizens. They’re all part of a machine that fucks over the American people.
Trying to equate all that to a home invader to force “one side is worse” is a stupid analogy.
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That’s why I am gonna run it into the fucking ground every change I get. Absolutely retarded equivalency.
The saddest part of this whole exchange is that no one said one was worse then the other EXCEPT for Miria who is that trying to make that everyone elses stance when the stance is so fucking simple. When politicians fuck up, call them out. That was the whole statement but Miria had to go on this huge fucking tirade about both sides and equivalency when its irrelevant to the comments made.
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Hair dye…and what’s left of his “common sense!!”
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What time is that?
Still holding on for that red wave of salt?
You’d think you would’ve learned from the Giuliani laptop nonsense, but nooo. Trump still has a chance.
Fucking kek.
I can’t wait for the Trumper salt tsunami, yours especially. 
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This RED LANDSLIDE better come up before Thanksgiving, I aint got all day
Or as good ol’ Timmy P would say 49 STATE LANDSLIDE!
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