The Dynasty/Samurai/Gundam/Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) Warriors thread

im asking moreso for the multiplayer portion hah
since i do love playing with other people

btw… cannot wait till STRRIKKKEEEEFORCE

Can’t wait for Strikeforce too…been hearing good stuff about it, and it has DLC mission for US/EU ports.

As far as I know, there has not been any announcements on any multiplayer modes for Empires. I’ll check again though at the Koei blogs.

There’s no online coop, sadly. There’s online VS., but no online coop.

As for Uso; out of curiosity (because despite my fondness of DWG, I hate most Gundam series), I looked up some clips ‘n’ shit from his series, and that show was messed the fuck up.

no online coop? godddddamit
i havent played gundam 2, but does that have it?
and if yes, then why not empires? why do you hurt me so, koei

Specs is right…DW:G2 only has online vs. mode.

I would be nice if Koei put in online co-op options for Empires…since apparently they are having the option of DLC of new costumes.

for $40…I hope they pack in decent amount of content.

considering i played dw5e a while ago and still enjoyed it
frankly they could serve it with a side of shit and id still like it =(

This will be my first time playing an Empires game…I’ve heard they feel more “complete”.

well my friends and i played empires4 an ungodly amount since it was the first one
you have so many more options, like healing your dudes in another part of the country, sending reinforcements, upgrading their weapons, they have the diplomacy options

basically rotk + dw = empires

thats why i didnt bother with 6, i refuse to buy anything that isnt empires haha

So more careful planning for the upcoming battle than say…running shit over with my blade most of the time?

honestly… you can still run through a lot of shit in most maps, but you’ll have a harder time if you dont reinforce your armies if you go buckwild, lose a lot of troops, then get attacked by 3 neighbouring provinces
if i remember, you can have blacksmiths and stuff to upgrade weapons, other shenanigans like that

it does add more strategy and just makes the game funner a thousandfold, imo

Upgrading existing weapons would be nice…I can have my own broken weapon w/o farming for string weapons. Can I do the same for my soldiers?

Does morale still play a factor in victories? I heard that some missions start with no morale at all. It wasn’t until playing Warriors Orochi that I got the importance of keeping a morale advnatage. I want to make sure that I can put strong commanders in camps…instead of punk bitched that LEAVE THE CAMP AS SOON AS I START WHOOPING ASS…only to die and cause me to lose.

I read that in Empires that when I start the game, I’ll be serving under a lord. That I don’t mind…

cant upgrade soldier weapons, but its how you upgrade your own
and ya morale is pretty important, if you lost a crapload of soldiers in a fight within a province and then you get attacked, just means you are gonna have a shit fun of a time trying to kill 5000 soldiers and 50 generals haha thats why you can use a turn to add soldiers to a squad

and ya you can serve as a lord, and if i remember in 4… you can also be the lord
i had my 2 main generals as friends that also created their own characters, CPU used them, but it was cool to see the 3 of us in a cut scene talking to my army

if you can find it, i suggest picking up empires 4 or 5 to give it a try
those games are still as fantastic as the day i bought them

I don’t think Empires mode is as deep as it could be. Pretty much you just choose a few things you want to do diplomatically and how to reinforce your army, then you choose where to fight or defend. You choose to serve under a lord which gives you the territory, pretty much. It isn’t anywhere as deep as playing ROTK by itself, especially since you are so limited on what you can do each turn.

Morale and soldier count are a little more evident in the Empires games, since sometimes you have to defend and you have low morale and soldier count, so you don’t see many of your soldiers and they die quickly. Still, being a one man wrecking crew, it shouldn’t matter. That is another annoyance - you have to defend your territory against attack. If you don’t, you lose that block of land. What does this mean? Sometimes you get attacked and you have to spend 10 minutes in a level defending it, or you lose it. You can’t choose to send officers there or anything, you pretty much have no choice but to play the level.

Empires 4 added the bases thing - you know how you can defeat a guard in a base, and you take over that base? That was one of the big advances for Empires 4, but it has been incorporated in every game since, pretty much. Empires 4 was probably the worst of them all because you were so limited in all your actions.

This taking “turns”…how does that work?
Is it like each turn I have a choice to attack or defend a piece of territory? And if the enemy makes a turn and attacks one of my bases, do I sit there, and have to rely on my soldiers…or can I somehow join in?

I was gonna get Samurai Warriors 2: Empires because I heard it was very good or beginners to get a feel of an Empires game…but since DW6: Empires is coming soon, I put it off.

i think im gonna start a new CAW in empires today
for some reason, im a fan of xhu xhu’s (not sure if thats his name) weapon, but the range is deceptive, its sooo damn short

You take turns… each turn, you get to do one action (build up troops, some type of diplomacy, whatever) out of what is offered to you. You don’t have a huge laundry list of things you can do, just one of the few options (it was 3 in most of the games, IIRC) that you are offered. Then you choose to attack a territory or defend. If you don’t defend, you pretty much lose that territory. I don’t remember exactly, but I think if you are getting attacked, you have to defend or lose it, so no attacking that turn. After the stage, you see other lords taking their turn. You always join in, but I mean, that is one of the things that really annoyed me, you were forced to play through a level over and over again sometimes just to defend.

zhu zhu sucks… i hate that weapon
tried out taishi ci’s again, also hate it

tried out wei yans for the first time, huge fan of that double voulge now, his c2 and c5 are awesome crowd clearers

Ling Tong’s DW5 weapon is awesome…so is Zhao Yun’s overall weapons.

Dian Wei’s DW6 weapon is the worst IMO.

ya i was always a fan of ma chaos
but his c2 really stinks, stupid forward poking, so hard to aim with
i used zhao yuns for a while, got meh

wei yans is awesome though

and yes ling tongs chucks are savage haha

i heard dian lost his axe, truth?

I didnt like DW6 too much based on Sun Shang Xiang. She is a bowman :rolleyes:
To add Guan Yu was ok, the one mission where you are suppose to prevent the fire attack against Wu is bullshit. Everytime i tried to stop it, the damages happens anyway. Matter of fact in the Wu side it is even worse and one has to be become a bodyguard