The day before SBO... THE SHIOZAWA CUP

i don’t get it.
what make someone so special when you got money to fly to japan to play?
how does that should grant you to play in a high level tournaments?

if americans are out of america, they are aliens. like mexicans in america.
look how americans treat mexicans…
americans need to behave when out of america.

for the american team match, fault was on both teams plus organizer.
first, team member shouldn’t have been changed after registration. no other team did that.
organizer should not have allowed that and they didn’t even notify them before the match to other team.
because its a team match, order is important and other team didn’t have that important info.
other team should have claimed before match start.
american team needs to stop crying about it. loss is a loss. you wouldn’t have wont the whole thing anyways.

Food for thought whilst you are busy educating the masses on Japan; angry nerd racist fucks are everywhere, not just ‘over there’.

2ch is much less… shady/retarded than 4chan, trust me.

And Americans always get low seeds in SBO and other tournaments, like Marn who had the pleasure of facing Mago in the first round of a TRF tournament. What’d all these anon Japanese scrubs do next?

“LOLOL MARN NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF FIRST ROUND. SCRUB AMRIKKKAN” shit.

America only seems to have this hate for itself. People talk shit on Justin, Marn, Arturo, nonstop and 95% of this forum seems to believe in the almighty nippon.

Nigguh please, we might not do well over at SBO, but Japan treats them a lot different than we treat them.

Also, Daigo and Dan got off their plane while pools were going on. Dan must’ve been able to skip at least some of that.

edit: I also remember seeing him in pool brackets, however he went 0-2 because he wasn’t there.

Yet still showed up in semis.

Well it’s also sponsored by Enterbrain, so they could have some of the same officials there as SBO.

No shit, huh? I was talking about the fact that 95% of the people on this forum act like every person in Japan is Daigo and is respectful and composed.

That’s A. Not how it is
and B. Retarded, because they won’t make you an honorary shinobi for giving them such good bjs.

That was my point.

this is not the first time people hating on us.(Americans) I’m not sure what we did either. Ok i know what we did to Japan. But some countries, we have nothing to do with them. i’m not just talking about SBO, i’m talking about other international competitions.

general behavior when americans travel overseas
and all the military campaign under the name of “anti-terrorist” and “saving democracy” etc etc to interfere with OTHER country’s internal affairs for american interests.
and other general haters who just hate ppl with power n money.

there are reasons, i tell you wut

yes but Diago shouldn’t have been in the gamestop tournament in the first place. since he didn’t qualify with his nationals, but we gave him a spot on the international round robin anyway.

Also remember when the wolfe brothers were wrecking shop in SBO a few years ago but during every single match they had SBO convienently went to an interview so we couldn’t see the matches? yeah. Japan treats its foreign players oh so well but we shit on them right???

That’s just montreal. jk jk

honestly they played the US national anthem when the leafs/calgary/edmonton/vancover play we never boo their anthem its just mean. [media=youtube]7TxpxFqAV4I[/media] <-- especially seeing this that was rude of the montreal fans to boo the us anthem.

I understand what you’re saying, but why should Americans get preferential treatment in tourneys? Wasn’t this year’s evo the first time that someone got to skip passed pools? Daigo got to face some of the best players in America by skipping the pools and Marn got to face Mago first round, who is arguably the best player in Japan. Also the TRF tournaments aren’t as important as Evolution or SBO and the Shiozawa Cup is just a prelude to SBO. I feel like you’re angry at America because its not as united in Japan in terms of support for its own players, which could be because America is diverse and not very nationalistic due to its diversity. Idk, some people just don’t identify with American players.

There were two sets of SF4 pools, AM and PM. Dan was in an PM pool. Dan did not skip any part of the pools.

Well if this event was invite only, then it’s not even about paying money to get there. It’s exclusive. Therefore the operation should be legit.

But truth be told: People cheat if they think they can get away with it. Remember the Patriots, and Marion Jones, and the list goes on. I remember hearing about one year at World Cyber Games, there was a 2v2 team for Starcraft that used a MAP HACK and won… for a time. Case in point: Team LGJ doesn’t speak Japanese therefore they can’t really argue with what happens unless it’s crystal clear bullshit. I suppose the best they could communicate their dissension would be to throw a fit/chairs/punches but it’d do less good than giving the other team a rematch no matter how unfair and undeserved it may be.

Anyway, I’m sure this topic will be debated more so to cut my bit short: you can’t stop fighting if you’ve yet to be defeated. Don’t lose spirit.

“Indestructible! Never let em break me down!”

People in this community get butt hurt too easily. Ya the japanese players probably call American players scrubs in the forums and what not. So what? What makes you think any player has earned their respect? Unless I’m missing something the best performance Americans have had in japanese tournaments is the Wolfe Brothers.

Also apparently calling japanese players better is being a fan boy when it reality its the cold hard truth. I’ve never seen a gaming community in the US be in this much denial about their skill level.

The travel shit is dumb too. Ya so what if you traveled a million miles. Its an invite tourney they’ll invite whoever they want to. No different then their being a 5v5 invite here and like 2 South American teams wanting into it cause its before evo and they are there for evo. Should a USA team be left out just cause one of the teams is from Brazil or something? No they shouldn’t because most likely the Brazilian team is worse or equal to the average american team. Kind of like the US teams wanting into the jap tourney isn’t it?

If you want their respect earn it, demanding it is just stupid.

As for the whole 5v5 argument I think it was wrong and shady by FZ’s team since they allowed Arturo to play and din’t say anything till after he won. They shouldve obviously noticed at the char select screen and said something if they had a problem with it but they didn’t so they should’ve been forced to play it out.

America is NOT nationalistic? Come on…

Hmm…yeah, Japan is mad shady.

They should have put Arturo on the team earlier though. Makes me wonder if they didn’t have anything to complain about. Doing it AFTER the loss is :rofl: though. Who was it on their team that complained? Fuck that player…

Oh man i can’t wait!!! I <3 america first lets go justin

this.

The momentum thing brings up a good point… Maybe when you are already an accomplished player in most aspects, there could be some value in mental practices? Doesn’t atheletes do that stuff to always put themselves in the right frame of mind? You know, sports psychology and stuff.

Results have been posted, read back some, people.

Damn, did Daigo even have to play the whole tournament? Someone confirm?

Maybe Mago’s dick will be less sore from all the riders hopping off of him for not winning?

What happened to Nuki/Nova/Tetsu/Kanbara/Aiku?

Momentum or not, getting screwed or not, you guys beat them the first time, and we running “a train”, well then shit, why don’t you get stronger mentally and learn to put the bullshit aside. If you guys are really that great, then you would have learned to deal with that shit and moved on. Bad calls happen in all sports (though I’m not comparing SF4 to any major sports, just a rough comparison), and the truly great players are the ones that overcome it.

They stuck it in your asses and you just stood bent over after they were done with you guys. They win! So please, stop your bitching and play again tomorrow and show them what’s up. If you get your asses kicked again tomorrow, well then, looks like they are better after all.

Deal with it.