When an item dies 40% of the time well within its 90 days warranty, that isn’t planned oboslecence - it’s bad fundamental design.
Just want to let everyone know, I’m not looking forward to any violent revolutions or any catastrophes that might occur. That will be a sad day for me, because it will have been avoidable.
Humorously the book has little to nothing to do with the movie.
Lol i want to comment more on this but i am at work at so my replys have to brief.
I actually think a brief required military stint then a lifetime standing reserve is the responsible obligation of any citizen hell the Swiss and Armenian do it(all i can think of off the cuff) and it works out better with a sense of national identity.
If you think american policy is abusive you must have traveled very little friend.
At least here we maintain the illusion of rights,but again that’s just an idea build on an ideal we abandoned long ago.
Flawed assumption: A cannot be bad if B is worse than A.
Far from flawed when backed up by burdon of proof.
I traveled before i went into the service,continued during,as well as after and i can tell you just the ability to type this as we are without a near constant worry about the wrong word costing you your life.
“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, science for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable an ignorable war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.” Albert Einstein
I cannot say that I disagree in the slightest.
And my personal favorite, from The World As I See It.
"The present deplorably high development of nationalism everywhere is, in my opinion, intimately connected with the institution of compulsory military service or, to call it by its less offensive name, national armies. A country which demands military service of its inhabitants is compelled to cultivate a nationalistic spirit in them, which provides the psychological foundation of military efficiency. Along with this religion it has to hold up its instrument, brute force, to the admiration of the youth in its schools.
The introduction of compulsory service is therefore, to my mind, the prime cause of the moral collapse of the white race, which seriously threatens not merely the survival of our civilization but our very existence. This curse, along with great social blessings, started with the French Revolution, and before long dragged all the other nations in its train.
Therefore those who desire to encourage the growth of an international spirit and to combat chauvinism must take their stand against compulsory service. Is the severe persecution to which conscientious objectors to military service are subjected to-day a whit less disgraceful to the community than those to which the martyrs of religion were exposed in former centuries? Can you, as the Kellogg Pact does, condemn war and at the same time leave the individual to the tender mercies of the war machine in each country?" ~ Albert Einstein
"It is a matter of life and death,
a road either to safety or to ruin.
Hence it is a subject of inquiry
which can on no account be neglected." Sun Tzu
Touché
So… I take it you agree with me, then?
Also, Albert Einstein>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sun Tzu.
This is a non-sequitur. Providing evidence for individual premises does not make the logic any less invalid.
What you are saying, in effect, is that it’s okay to cede more control of our lives to the military-industrial complex, and your justification is that at least it’s not as bad as other places in the world. I hope I don’t need to point out to most people here that this is insane.
The military isn’t saving anybody. It’s protecting the interests of the corporatocracy. I don’t mean to offend you.
The life and death isn’t a military war, at least not yet (and hopefully never). It’s a war of the people’s minds versus the conditions of the planet, and the obstacles we are facing and the ones that we will be forced to face soon.
well its slowly getting there. but I feel like its happening in a much more passive manner. That is, anybody who question’s or speaks out is shunned and ridiculed by the community.
death isn’t that bad, making somebody feel less human for their believes and making them a public spectacle is harsher than death.
Have you seen that Navy commercial
we police the worlds oceans, we are a global force of good.
Honestly the war in Washington (Im assuming this is the current war you refrenced right now) is a war over which Ideology is going to take power and control. A social democracy where the state comes first, or a social democracy where the corporation comes first. The players are to ingrained into the system. You have to strip the system and force them out. These people are worse than dictators.
GM, my good sir - WHO CARES if your uncle raped you as a toddler?
At least he didn’t KILL YOU.
Complain more.
Am I doing it right?
(re: wrong?)
Feel free to offend i’m no wilting flower.
I am however on my way out i’ll address Goodm0urning’s attempt’s at linguistic gymnastics to support a very weak and pedantically obtuse point stating that by giving up some control means at no point will i have to sell my children to a brothel.
That sir is insane.
I’m using terms that are basic, direct, and widely accepted for what I’m talking about. I’m not sure how I could make it any more clear.
Your initial argument is flawed at the level of simple logic. Your rebuttal to my counter-argument has nothing to do with what I said (it goes unchallenged) and everything to do with how I said it (and there’s nothing wrong with it).
I am looking forward to it. If we fuck up the world (or rich folks) good, they will be afraid to try this oppressive bullshit in the future
Not exactly sure where your circular logic is coming from.
Your initial reply to me was
That is baseless opinion because you again assume abuse where i see it as ignorance and stubborn refusal to admit it’s being managed with to much personal interests involved.
You go on with
Saying is is non-sequitur when only addressing that part of my post and not the aspect of a firm belief in a mandatory service margin then standing reserve being a moral and national imperative then going on to say that proof and logic behind behaviors in country’s with a much stronger sense of nationalism and ethical treatment historically is invalid logic.
It seems that all your doing is painting with a very yellow brush and ignoring the rebuttals is pretty much to be expected considering your general tone overall.
Then to comment that we should give up more to a military-industrial complex of which aside from tax’s in your daily life you give up nothing aside from in war time you may be called upon to defend the freedoms you happily utilize by the second is fairly childish.
Baseless? Have you not been reading the thread you’re posting in?
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Please locate your comma key and figure out how to operate it.
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You’re shooting with a blunderbuss here. My remarks about logic specifically apply to your assertion that we don’t have issues of abuse in our system because other places have worse problems with abuse in theirs. My remarks apply to nothing else.
What rebuttals?
Note: simply repeating your insane opinion that citizens’ rights should come at the price of mandatory military service does not constitute a rebuttal.
This is gibberish. For fuck’s sake, proofread your shit before you post. This is just slightly easier than making sense out of Hubcapsignstop’s posts.
Straightened out, here’s what I think you said:
“You give up nothing for your country aside from taxes. It is childish to think that you shouldn’t have to defend the freedoms that you happily utilize.”
I must ask: defend those freedoms from whom?
I will remind you that, according to our very own Constitution, we are born with basic inalienable rights. It is fundamentally against the ideals of our country that any of us, for any reason, should not have access to those rights. It doesn’t matter if you haven’t served in the military. It doesn’t matter if you don’t vote in national elections. It doesn’t matter if you don’t salute the flag. If you believe in the American ideal, you must accept that human beings are guaranteed their basic rights, just because they’re human beings–and that anything less is tyranny.
As far as making a contribution goes, all Americans who work jobs and consume enough to sustain themselves are contributing to the collective livelihood of this country. Furthermore, all Americans who pay their fair share of taxes are supporting their fellow countrymen as an act of social responsibility.
The strongest defense for any nation is not a military that is willing to go anywhere and follow any order. It is a robust economy in which everybody has a good-sized slice of the pie. The nation is truly strong when all its citizens are strong.
Most American citizens might not serve in the military, but they do play by the rules–paying their taxes, working their jobs, consuming goods and services at market price. That is every bit as important. Most of our problems as a country are caused by wealthy-ass law-breaking motherfuckers who don’t do any of those things.
I think I can try to address this post point by point. This is a web forum after all, so don’t expect perfection.
First off I associate with people mainly because they are capable of thinking about ‘real deeper issues.’ So friends are capable.
Some family are, some family are not. Usually those who are not capable are old, and some day we’ll be the same as them, unable to relate to current events so malleably on a day to day basis. The other part of the family unable to really comprehend are either retarded or completely un-motivated to think. I don’t have conversations with those parts of my family.
I think there is a large percentage of the population who doesn’t want to think. What can we do? Nothing. They’re morons by choice and probably happy.
Why haven’t we converted to clean energy? Power and time. Those in power are slow to accept or be forced into change. Time because there is much infrastructure in place and it’s a great and expensive effort to update this infrastructure. Also, I think the reason most people don’t give a shit is because it’s inconvenient. Electric car batteries take too long to charge and are too short range. We’re used to more. On Demand. Would you essentially give up your time in order to go electric? I can’t afford to now. Eventually when batteries and all available infrastructure improves, we can all move on. Something I am working on personally.
I do and did see how media is run by a popularity contest. I mostly don’t watch, listen, or read what’s popular. It’s boring to me. It more or less passes in one ear and out the other. I don’t know what you mean, “if someone speaks out he or she will be ignored.” If they’re loud as fok and more importantly ignorant as fok, look at the Tea Party. A bunch of assholes with loud microphones and ye olde ‘I am scared of things changing my values’ attitude. No one should listen to them. I think they should be ridiculed. On the flip side if Obama says, “Hey let’s think long term about this guys,” no one will listen because of the afore mentioned popularity contest ruling media. Too many people are ignorant and don’t care to think about the long term consequences.
Universal education is a great concept, and much like socialism, what ends up happening in the end is flawed, ruined by power hungry parties. Whether this is just the friction of our own human greed with the wonderful idea of universal [insert ideal]. It will never live up to the ideal except in fiction.
How else can be resolve the friction between our countries ideals and reality? Should people be given a vote if they take the bible literally? Shouldn’t they be labelled a cult and become outcasts? The thing is, they are also greedy and want to spread their philosophies to as many people as possible. So given power, they will attempt to perpetuate their kind. It’s only natural if not disturbing.
I don’t agree that the entire education system is to black and white as to always lead people like sheep. I think it’s some muddled vision of a near sighted person trying to make out what’s on the horizon. People are simply not capable of their ideals. Two sides to this: People are greedy and will do what they can to contort the system to their will and ego. The other side being many people are simply not capable, for one reason or another, of realistically approaching the level of intelligence required to achieve a highly educated status.
Excuse me but they do teach:
- Practical problem solving: Engineering of all kinds.
- Creativity: Arts for the heart and research for the future of man kind, creativity of different kinds.
- Altruism: Well I don’t think altruism is a realistic concept. It’s based on this idea of 100% complete self sacrifice for someone else, eg a parent for a child. But in reality, the parent is raising the child because otherwise they would feel bad. It’s not that the parent is altruistic if they sacrifice their time, energy, and well being for a child, it’s that they know they’d feel bad if they didn’t.
I might say, instead of altruism, just being opened minded and educated about many different ways of life, customs, and societies is being taught in schools. (Not all people agree with this and thus education is dynamic, changing from place to place).
It is true, however, “They teach standardized tests, conformity, nationalism, and desensitization.” They also teach other things.
Now if you really hate society you can go live in a cave and somehow survive like no man has before. But you cannot be a lone wolf within society, it will eventually invade your life in subtle and bombastic manners.
I’m not sure if I’ve really covered what I think well enough, but it’s all a very complicated set of problems, issues, and irrational ideals.