The Complete Dudley Thread

Classic Fighting Games Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
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i usually use the forward (MK) version for the anti-throw stuff. short (LK) for combo enders.

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Kal el, can you help with Alex

I posted this in eps thread but it hasnā€™t been answered, and iā€™ve been getting punished by this crazy good white guy named don. Alex vaille told me heā€™s the best white boy in the oc, anyways, here are my issues. Any help would be great.
I never really gave alex a whole lot of credit. After playing casually for a few months now, iā€™m finding a lot of alex players to be quite threatning.

Heres my new list of issues:

Biggest fear is getting thrown. Iā€™m affraid of powerbomb ticks, and dash in power bombs. Also dash in karas. Itā€™s scary if the player can charge partition through the dash so if i poke they ex chargeā€¦major damage and knockdown.

Knockdown! I have trouble dealing with finely tuned alex mix ups. People love wake up throwing, or tick set ups. Iā€™m too afraid to parry, its so risky. I hate wake up ex uppers or supers cause if iā€™m wrongā€¦When iā€™m in the corner i canā€™t wake up ssb. His wake up standing knee cancel to whatever is harsh on stun and damage, i think you get the picture.

Jumping in, alex can read the parry and powerbomb. Or s. mp cancel to ex knee grab, or delayed cr. hp to ex knee, s. mp to slash or ex slash. All do big damage, and reasonably difficult to parry.

I find that i can control alex when he is just standing around poking, and thinking for a way to get in, but i can only control him for so long. Usually Alex will start with the footsie attacks, how can i deal with this?

The stomp is bullshit. You can block, your right, but it sometimes gets behind you and hits you, and by sometimes i mean a lot if the player is good. Thatā€™s the whole point in using it cause it is normaly cake to block. Well against dudley anyways i assume.

Basically i find myself throwing out st. fp, st. rh and waiting for the ex machine chain. Andā€¦ thatā€™s all i can say iā€™ve been successful with so far, besides duck in throws and other damageless bullshit.

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hm really good alex? my friend eli plays a really good alex, so i kinda feel u there. if ur getting owned that bad on wakeup try working on your footsies and get knocked down less. keep alex out of the air, because you have the advantage on the ground.

if they are dashing on you as a routine thing stick out c.mp to cancel into duck xx super to hit them out of the dash. . try empty jump, ssb for when he predicts your parry. alexā€™s AA game isnt bad, so try to stay on the ground a little more and play footsies. if ur really desperate to wakeup with something try jab corkscrew, its relatively hard to punish.(alex can probably only punish with ex shoulder tackle or sweep). try to be a little more fearless too, but make good decisions. dudleyā€™s reward for a successful parry is really big, so you have to be willing to take that risk sometimes. also, instead of working to get in, work to keep alex out instead, and standing your ground. try not to be so scared of getting powerbombed, while it does do decent damage it isnt nearly as bad as karakusa or hugos 360. alex has to outdamage dudley alot, and the only way he can really do this is if he gets on a roll on wakeup, so try not to get knocked down.

also this guy is probably really good, so you really shouldnt feel bad losing to him, just keep playing him and experiment different stuff. dont get discouraged and give up. if all else fails, pick chun-liā€¦lol.

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What iā€™m up against.

That is very useful advice, itā€™s goin to be hard to pull up that info when alex is rushing the crap outta me lol. In due time iā€™ll learn to deal with itā€¦ but in case you were wondering, or wanna watch some decent match vids of west coast talent, check this link from combo vids.

http://www.combovideos.com/page.php?id=1154

Heā€™s around the middle, name is Ghetto D. and heā€™s playing CaliPower (Valle)

Tell me what you think of this beast.

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yeah ive seen that guy play, hes good.

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My apologies

Heres the vid youā€™ll wanna watch with the valle vs don match.

http://www.combovideos.com/page.php?id=1161

I really hoped i wouldnā€™t make that mistake, oh well.

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Iā€™ve been trying to do a specific corner juggle on Q:
s.rh x EX MGB -> fierce Jet Uppercut -> s. strong x fierce Jet Uppercut

Thing is, I canā€™t get the s.strong to connect. Do I have to wait a bit after the first fierce jet uppercut? do I have to do it as soon as possible? I tried for about 20 min but I only got the s.strong to connect like onceā€¦ Anyone know the timing on it?

Anyway, hereā€™s a vid of fujiwara tearin up a Q:
[media=youtube]fpB9nmAgCV4[/media]

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you gotta do the fierce Jet earlier and do the s. strong as soon as you recover.

itā€™s similar timing to EX Jet -> twds + forward x fierce Jet.

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Umm what would be the best link into super with duds? Also is the lk, mk, mp into SA a good link?

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the best links are IMO:

  1. twds + roundhouse -> super

  2. UOH -> super

  3. twds + forward -> super

  4. s. short, s. forward -> super - iā€™d use this over s. short, s. forward, s. strong

there are other hit confirms (that arenā€™t called c. short, c. short xx super) into super, but they arenā€™t links. i would say theyā€™re somewhat in between. theyā€™re both really useful though:

  1. s. strong or c. strong x duck xx super

  2. s. roundhouse x duck xx super

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What characters can you do that aganist

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as far as i know, EX Jet -> twds + forward x fierce Jet:

  1. Urien/Gill
  2. 12
  3. Remy

(after launcher) jab MGB -> EX Jet -> fierce Jet:

  1. Shotos

(after launcher) c. roundhouse -> EX Jet -> fierce Jet:

  1. the chicks, but iā€™m not sure you can do that vs. Ibuki at all
  2. Necro

(after launcher) EX Jet -> s. strong x fierce Jet:

  1. Hugo

vs. Elena in the corner, you can just do (after a launcher):

somewhat early fierce Jet (1 hit) -> fierce Jet (2 hits)

edit: [media=youtube]3HLQVBtK2vA[/media]

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I love you? Marry me? <3 We can have lil dudlets :lovin:

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http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101258

That has the old dud video thread, i posted 4 of the 5 tut vids on there.

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Im having trouble doing the Foward Fierce Kick into SA. You know where he punches down onto the guy. I cant seem to time that properly. Could someone help me out?

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First of all, theyā€™re hard anyway, soā€¦ Practice, practice, practice. You canā€™t buffer(or only have like 3frames), so the qcfqcf+p has to be performed fast. Then keep practicing until you get the timing.
Secondā€¦ it will only work on a ducking opponent. If you didnā€™t know already, ducking opponents have longer hit stuns. Like j.HK HK hcf+MK KxxSuper will land on some ducking opponents (in this combo, and others, they stay in a ducking state, so they keep receiving longer hit stuns).

My thoughts on LK,MK,MP string.
I use it tons. Kinda nice for rushdown and throw setups. The reason I use the MP sometimes is because, if theyā€™re ducking, youā€™ll whiff, but still have a frame advantage, so you can take measures to keep them in block stun or go for the tick throw. If it lands, you can still link to the super, or finish with HP to get the damage. And if the MP is blocked, you still have a fame advantage as well.
From here i go for a hcf+LP, c.MPxxDucking, MK, c.HK, whatever! Depending on what your opponent likes to do.

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I love you. Ive been waiting for an answer, thanks i just learned something completly new.

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Holy shit this is the best strats thread everā€¦

edit: Just one question though, about the cr.RH juggle to makoto. Somehow i cant do it. Iā€™m playing on ps2 btw.

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hey guys im new to dudley.

any help would be great

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f+roundhouse x N

Dadorey power.