The Chess Thread

@forte95 Alright, also I want to give you white pieces so I can show you your first opening. It’s my favorite and phenomenally common. Since some of the moves in it are common sense there isn’t much to remember. Ruy Lopez exchange variation. I’ll give you the notation for it and tell you some things about the tactical opportunities available in it. I’ll fall into one of the traps on purpose since its bad but not autolose for black pieces.

  1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. O-O *

Daily chess is good if you are on the go and only have time for a few moves a day or you want to explore openings. I challenged you to a 14 day time limit game but since I’ve started playing everyday(because the smartphone app is amazing, I can play even with a busy schedule.)

@forte95

Ah thanks, but if it’s fine I actually want to try black. I want to master the French Defense, it’s something I’ve worked on before.

Ruy Lopez is my favorite as white, too. My dad used to teach me Giuco Piano but Ruy Lopez clicked with me more.

This was all 5-ish years ago, though, I’ve forgotten all the theory haha.

Alright I’ll make sure the game goes into French Defense stuff. I’ll give you black.

I’m down to play sometime

BullDancer I don’t know my openings that well so dont be surprised if the game ends on move 10

@JustinAkatsuki I don’t want to be a dirtbag. So I’ll at let you know two things. 1)Take with the queen pawn and 2)I’m leaving that pawn of my hanging on purpose, don’t take it with the knight after I castle(which is my next move).

This is going to be my new favorite thread. I’m going to have to train a little bit before I join you guys. It’s been way too long.

Everybody appears to be a beginner(including myself). You don’t learn by not playing. There are too many bs openings out here that outright work on people without good fundamentals.

For example, this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danvers_Opening

It leaves white a little weak on development if defended properly but the messed up thing is that it’s sound if played correctly.

Or this guy: https://www.chess.com/chessopedia/view/fried-liver-attack

Whenever you see a gambit or an attack being played, I’d say 75% of the time you have to think: How can I defend with d4/d6.

After getting crushed so many times by this simple garbage, basically when you push d4/d5(depending on if you are white or black) you should never take your pawn back. Matter in fact that Nxd5 move should be annotated like ???. Instead of that move, just do Na5 and your opponent has to move the bishop to a horrible square. It’s a cheap trick and dubious but unless you know the right answers you will get got.

Even this guy is cheap. It’s cool to take the first pawn but honestly you should develop after that. If you take the second one, your opponent is getting all in that ass unless you have a defense prepared already.

EDIT: Game of the Day
V is for victory: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1066825&kpage=4#kibitzing

Where do you even start? Books on beginner strategy, youtube? Any good teacher programs?

@LilBarlog No!!! Lol the only thing you should be doing is tactics trainers. There are plenty of smartphone apps that are free. The one on chess.com is the best so far but you need a membership for unlimited puzzles. The lessons are cool and all but most of them assume you have intermediate tactical knowledge. So you’ll be clueless unless you can identify game winning combinations off of a mistake.

I liked this one called ichess as a close second because the interface was good. Chess.com is the best place for live games and their app is dope.

Another free one by a developer named Coregames just called Tactic Trainer is pretty good too but those ads are helluva invasive and the pieces look terribad. Certainly third place.

Start with tactics and knowing your basic gameplan (DEVELOP YOUR PIECES), along with some simple endgame mating patterns. Not dropping pieces unnecessarily is alpha omega. Punishing people for their mistakes (and they will make them) is also huge.
The chess mentor function on chess.com is also very, very useful. One of the best teaching tools I’ve encountered.

When you’re getting a feel for the game, find 2-3 openings you like (which is to say, an opening with white and a defense against 1.e4 and 1.d4 with black) and stick to them as much as possible.

@BullDancer I’m on now! I’ll just accept both games from you, so you can teach me both Ruy Lopez and French Defense.

I have a question, you notated Ruy Lopez with 4. Bxc6 dxc6 but I think I remember some material I read years ago, it goes straight into 4. O-O. Most Ruy Lopez games I’ve watched, they keep the bishop on that diagonal, which I thought was a setup for an attack on Black’s kingside castle. I even remember a variation where White pushes his a-file pawn just so he can keep the bishop on the diagonal (more or less) if attacked by Black’s a- and b-file pawns. Why is it better to exchange the bishop straight from the opening?

Also, wow at the Danvers Opening, I didn’t know that shit had a name haha! I always thought of it as sort of a “street” opening (we called it “larong kalye” in Filipino, which roughly means “street game”). I got obliterated by it myself when I was playing a high school classmate when I played 2. … g6 lol, the kingside of my board got wiped out pretty quickly. I actually beat a guy in tournament with it a few years ago.

I don’t have accounts on any chess sites (yet), but I did just reinstall Chessmaster Grandmaster Edition.

Though for some reason it didn’t install start menu shortcuts in Win10.

Damn you, Ubisoft.

A chess thread?

Cool.

The Bishop is Low Tier.

That’s all.

Carry on.

So are most people playing on Chess.com?

Main line Ruy Lopez is for me to chase the bishop and you retreat. You create a safe hole for your bishop with the move c3 and try to castle asap if your bishop isn’t in danger. Then a decent move is h3 to stop kingside tactics. And from there it’s a tough and complicated game.

I like the exchange variation, because you try to trade off and win a positional/tactical end game.

EDIT: @forte95

And @drunkards_walk Yes, I don’t play on icc cheating is pretty prevalent there.

Also I played a fast game. Threw the game away under time pressure but I wanted to show off the v-is for victory pawn structure. I think it’s called Caro-Slav or something. I’m trash though so w/e.

  1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Be7 5. d3 a6 6. a4 d6 7. h3 Bd7 8. O-O Na5 9. Ba2 b5 10. axb5 axb5 11. Be3 c5 12. Ne2 b4 13. b3 O-O 14. Ng3 Qb6 15. Bb1 Ra6 16. Kh1 Rfa8 17. Qd2

I wouldn’t say that the beginning is perfect by any means but just wanted to show how pawn chains can win games by themselves. V is for victory in positional games that allow this type of structure. Also in a book from Andrew Soltis that I never read because it’s no good for a beginner. But attack on the side your pawns face is GOAT advice. I started mobilizing rooks when my pawns went in on the same side.

Also game of the day:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1242938
Epic checkmate by Capablanca SUPER hard to see.

@Naeras I blundered :sad:

EDIT: Well I see a 5 move tactic I have stashed up no matter how you take, but I still feel like I’ll be losing after the exchanging is done.

Dunno, this entire game is a clusterfuck and you’ve still got more pawns and the bishop pair. And I have a terrible habit of thinking approximately five seconds for every move I make, so I’ll probably screw this up <.<

Also, wait for me to punish your blunders before you mention that you made a blunder. I might not have seen the mistake yet and will let you get away with it. =p