Колин выходит на Каток! The Character Discussion Thread

well according to Kira she has 3 costumes on her way

If only she got the Chun treatment

I would love for Kolin to get some costume love.

But I’m afraid she’s gonna get some lame Mrs. Santa outfit for Xmas.

I know CC won’t disappoint lmao

Lmao who am I kidding

Please be good outfits Ono please!!!

One is practically guaranteed to be a christmas outfit. And last years were trash.

I liked a few of the Xmas outfits, but they just feel wrong to use after the Xmas period is over.

Great. Now that I know that XKira was the one who said Kolin would be getting costumes, I don’t have any hope -_-

Wasn’t he kind of obsolete as a leaker after those fake news he posted back then?

Gimme Kolin Outfits!! >.<

He data mined this and showed proof. It’s real.

No, he’s pretty legit when it comes to datamining

That’s awesome, then! I’ll have some buffs to go with the costumes, please.

I’m looking forward to the new costumes for my main!!!

I never see in replays anybody uses this mixup.
**MP.Counter, LP.Hail, MK+HK.Step - close version stays forward, neutral version crosses up. **
Counter is a hard knockdown so you don’t have to bet meter on what wakeup your opponent is going to use, like with all other MK+HK.Step mixups i know.
It’s not a 50/50 though, because opponent can walk or dash under hail. To dissuade him from doing so - most used setup works great: MP.Counter, LP.Hail, cr.MK, (hail hits), st.HP xx …
So i usually go for cr.MK on my first counter to make opponent crouch block after Counter (they usually do it anyway), and then try to apply MK+HK.Step mixup.
That mixup seems good to me, it’s closest thing to a 50/50 that Kolin has, that i know.
It’s also safe - if opponent tries to DP on wakeup - you will be afar and can punish him with air throw. Delaying DP is useless because Hail will put opponent in blockstun.
How to deal with walking and backdashing i haven’t explore much because nobody uses it in matches. Walking back kills a mixup, but you still get jump in pressure. I also think you can react to that and do a far version of MK+HK.Step to adjust. Need to try - that’s hard to do without a partner because i don’t know a way to record counter and setup on a dummy.
So the question is why nobody uses that mixup? Is there a way to beat it that i don’t know?
For me it made trying to counter way more risk/reward balanced. I watched a replay yesterday where Kolin landed like 6 Counters in match and went for cr.MK setup all 6 times, which was blocked all 6 times. Seems a waste.

https://youtu.be/2XBF2xcgf9M

I labbed it a bit and found this. After MP.Counter opponent can just walk out of Hail if he walks forward. After LP.Counter - the same but backwards, here placement of Hail is not as good as for MP.Counter.
So establishing fear of cr.MK setup is important.

My guess is people don’t go for it much because it’s not garanteed and costs meter. EX Parabellum is so important to her basic gameplan that every bar you spend on something that’s not sure to land will give you one less EX Parabellum in scenarios where you’re sure you’ll land it. And if they’re close to stun and want something ambiguous you can still just depend on the threeway low-overhead-throw mixup after hail.

It does however allow you to keep/get some proper momentum after a counter. I’ll try it sometime.

Basically what delete says. It’s not that we don’t want to do these set ups but the guarantee rate is fucking low because she has no true true 50/50 BS unga set ups like the top tiers.

Urien can blow his load on one bar and get guaranteed high low shit that makes his oppression scary. With Kolin it’s like… just block.

For all of the “set ups” Kolin has I only go for about 3 and 2 of those are basically the most likely to work consistently since the opponent has to sorta guess. I honestly hate that Kolin has to spend bar for resets like that.

Honestly my favorite set up is the delayed wake up light hail set up. I swear that shit works 100% online lmao

@TWINBLADES Can you specify what 3 setups you use? Especially your favourite.

Main one:

Delayed WU

After EX Hands>L.Vanity>st.MK>L.Hail dash forward and then cross up. Hits them on wake up.

I swear this works on delayed wake up every time at least online.

Of course the classic being counter into L.Hail>cr.MK

The 3rd is a throw bait set up but it’s finicky since I’m not good at conditioning people to tech since I’m a scrub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ETleT7yW0

ON YOUR KNEES

When are the new costumes coming ?!?

Probably November