Someone who understands for both Vergil and Skrull!! That Skrull quote was every fans favorite regardless of it’s orgins.
Seriously though Vergil is better than Dante, deal with it.
Needs more explain.
+Vergil
- 1 bar super that is immune to hit stun deterioration, also protects Vergil at all times allowing him to do whatever he wants
- Full screen maximum Vergil is a great punish option and does good damage
- Faster and controllable teleports
- Can TOD any character without using X-factor, and even by himself
- Reset Game is better than Dante’s
- Can combo off throws by himself
- Rapid Slash is an OP crossup that can lead to full combo and is even more dangerous with an assist
- Sword crown makes for crazy mind games and mixups
- Longer normals and better space control
- Very Classy
+Dante
- Safe normals
- Better and more useful projectiles
- Ambiguous jumping C
- Better Devil Trigger
- Better voice actor
I would love to see Sentinel’s j.LK as his light attack instead of his j.LP, but it’s never going to happen. It’s pretty obvious Capcom gave us the worse jumping light normal of the two on purpose (same reason why his cr.L is his shit-tacular cr.LP instead of cr.LK for a faster low).
Speaking of MODOK, I want to see his S Psionic Blaster actually usable. Right now it’s still a useless move because it is so slow to come out. If S Psionic Blaster had the same startup as L Psionic Blaster I’d be more than willing to burn LoUs for that.
Now I think about it, it would be nice if weak anal cube was an otg and that modoks assists were effected by knowledge. Having jamming bomb or the giant shield would be sick.
There is some misleading going around in this thread. Particularly in regards to the whole Dante vs Vergil thing.
Vergil is more classy than Dante…so I guess Dante is done.
I don’t know enough about Vergil to say if he’s that much better than Dante, but Dante is still really really fucking hella good.
Why the hell not:
TRON
Restore J.H back to Vanilla status.
Restore Bonne Strike H back to Vanilla status.
Wow, so I’m actually just saying that the Tron nerfs were completely unwarranted? Yes, yes I am. Like everyone else.
SENT
Health to 1.05M.
Restore Rocket Punch back to Vanilla status.
The fact that a lawyer has more health than a robot is stupid.
Oh hey, these are basically complaints about Capcom balancing again.
WESKER
(Include the obvious nerfs - health to 850k, no sunglasses buff, increased damage and hitstun scaling on OTG gunshot)
Counter hyper back to Vanilla status.
More complaints about bad balancing on Capcom’s behalf.
HSEN-KO
Cancellable pendulum.
Anki bombs explode on impact.
Faster air dash.
Obvious, yet completely ignored by Capcom.
IRON MAN
Restore airdashes and flight to vanilla status.
Restore double jump.
Uh…
CAPCOM. WE NEED TO TALK.
THERE’S NO NEED TO NERF LOW-TIER CHARACTERS.
EDIT: I’ll leave this here:
PHOENIX WRIGHT
Startup on all three M-Maya?! specials reduced to 0. Wright cannot call assists for the current startup time (27 frames for shield, 40 for slide).
Removal of meat, meat replaced by more good evidence.
Evidence is no longer random. Every third piece of evidence Wright collects is bad.
M-Maya?! specials changed to HCF motions.
M-Maya?! specials available in Courtroom and Turnabout modes.
Faster startup on Hold It!
Ace Attorney no longer ends Turnabout.
Morrigan needs a ground dash. Flight cancel is not even remotely enough of a mitigator to counter the air dash nerf. Also her missles are still super ass. They need to travel at hidden missle speed.
For Sent they need to up his life to Taskmaster health or Spencer health at the very least. No way I’m accepting that he has less health than Joe. He was clearly designed to be a tank
His light attacks look silly, just give him his old c.lk
And I say give him some of his air normals from CoTA back. Namely, his air buzzsaw, the hammer bop and body press:
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Why out of everything they gave him boots and more boots as jump attacks is beyond me
I’ll bite:
Nemesis -
+Hyper armor all the way through bio hazard rush.
+Crouching ROCKET LAUNCHER
+Make whiff recovery less on command grab
+Make command throw super instant
MODOK -
- Angled Hyper Psionic Blaster
+Let large dorito block supers (or at least some durability)
+Let LOU effect assists
+Instant Killer Illumination/let it be Kara’d
+Hint of invulnerability in Battering Ram Super
+Let LOU’S stack indefinitely (but keep max power saying at 9)
Rocket Raccoon -
- Cancel Rocket Skates into Normals
- Allow Flapper to ground bounce non air born opponents
- Let me shoot my little gun while floating
Wesker -
- Make Glasses off power up an actual level 1 super.
- Make it stackable but it kills him like Pheonix unless unless he takes an injection after a set time frame. Must inject or will die off screen if taken off point. (He did take some injections for that ish didn’t he? More stacks, faster he dies.)
Wolverine -
- Advanced healing while on point or offscreen. Stops healing while in Bezerker Charge.
Deadpool -
- Never has red life decrease.
Hulk -
+Life increase to 1,750,000
Sentinel -
- Return life to day one vanilla sent
Haggar -
- Command throw instant
- Give him a cancellable command dash with Armor
I’m a buff master.
This needs to happen, just to see someone come up with a TOD on him.
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Seriously though, maybe Sent really does need more health… just a smidge.
Chris should get all of his weapon sounds replaced with Metal Slug sounds. Seriously that would be amazing.
RAWKET LAWNCHAIR!
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SHOTGUN!
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DROP SHOT! (prone)
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SOOPAH GRENADE!
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HEAVY MACHINE GUN!
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Make it so, Capcom… NOW!!!
Spiderman
- Bigger hitboxes on some of his normals
- Less hitstun deterioration on his moves so comboing into Maximum Spider doesn’t feel like a gamble
- Web Swing as a qcb motion
Vergil
- Can cancel normals into specials on whiff
Haggar
- Super armor on all of his Violent Axes (1 hit on light versions and 2 hits on the medium and heavy versions)
- ALL hits of lvl 1 hyper connecting on hit regardless of scenario
Strange
- A fucking airdash
- Mystic Sword L shouldn’t be getting ducked under
- cr.L hits low
- Less start-up on Eye of Agamoto
- b+H actually does something on contact
She-Hulk
- cr.H range reverted back to vanilla version
- Torpedo on hit does waaaay less pushback so relaunch combo is consistent
- mid-air clothesline causes a hard knockdown instead of a wallbounce
These aren’t going to happen, but one can dream.
Shuma-Gorath
+His j.:s: becomes his HK from previous games and it knocks down the enemy at a not-so-obnoxiously far distance.
+New command normal: :d::h: His current launcher (stone drop) but recovers a bit faster and ground bounces. Yes, like Phoenix’s :d::h:.
+:f::h: wall bounces
^
I dreamt of this recently.
Dormammu
+++His fire related moves match the color of his head!!
^
I would pay for this… Capcom, please take my money tear
Dante’s neutral game is way better than Vergil and he has tools that outmatch him in every way. I play both of them, Dante is superior. They’re both very good.
THANK YOU!!!
Seriously i want capcom to stop sucking at the balance and just buff every character they know sucks at this point.
The problem is that Capcom doesn’t know who sucks or wins at this game. They just balance characters to complete specific objectives or meet expectations for that character archetype(which worked out pretty well for 38-40 characters in Ultimate). They don’t care about trying to balance for tournaments like some people think they do. Hell, they genuinely felt that they hadn’t done enough to make Wesker viable for Vanilla and became one of the top ten characters there.
We can’t even be sure of how they actually evaluate these things since most character related talk from them is either “hidden tech” or “super cool my favorite character!”.