I actually box as well and did the Chicago Golden gloves this year also. I just didn’t want to go that route and start pulling cards. You might as well give it up with dude Cutwest. Absolutely nothing will convince of the difference between moving laterally while not trying to engage at all vs lateral movement, fighting on the backfoot, and actually looking for scoring opportunities.
Foreman commented on that fight and basically said when Ali was like “that all you got?” he literally had gave him his best. But just because that is how it ended doesn’t mean Foreman and other offensively minded fighters are slouches. There are technical fighters who have issues with puncher/brawler types and vice versa. I mean you saw what happened with Duran/Leonard 1 and we saw what happened in their second fight. Granted Leonard rushed the shit out of that fight and was fighting a Duran who was obviously not ready for a rematch, lol. But either way there are just styles that work better for certain fighters.
Leonard tried to “be a man” and slug it out with Duran and caught that L. Came back with the slick style and a little taunting and made Duran quit out of frustration. I’m assuming most of us have seen that 30 for 30 (“No Mas”), but if you haven’t it’s a great one. Duran is still salty about that fight, talking about he shouldn’t have ate those steaks lol, fuck outta here.
Yo he was living it up as champ and fucked up, lol. But that’s my point. Leonard doesn’t do well with Duran’s style and vice versa. Not eveyone can be a technical genius, and not everyone has the ability to box like a real like ippo.
I learned a shit ton about boxing when i trained…learned how to watch it too. that was awesome. even though i can comprehend the skill going on it will still be boring to me though.
This is the same for me. I started training in boxing and learned a lot of how things work. I am a huge boxing fan and have been training in it and what not, but I’d be lying if I said that Floyd or Ishe smith’s fights are exciting. I respect and appreciate the skill, but at the same time I’d like for a more exciting fight as well.
I can’t watch muay thai because of clinch work for 5 rounds
I pretty much grew up watching boxing with my dad and his friends. It was actually kinda shocking once I got older and met people who didn’t grow up watching it.
i remember waiting in line with my dad for him to buy the tyson PPVs at the cable company
but when tyson was done and ODLH finally lost i just fell out of touch.
then floyd oscar happened…
Cutwest is by far the dumbest troll on SRK right now. You can tell a guy lost an argument when he has to pull out “grammar mistakes” on obvious typos. You reply like a 5 year old who is pissed as hell for being spanked. It is sad to see such stupid people today, going off like jack asses pulling out vids that they are too dumb to determine as self-refutations.
Your Oscar vs Trinidad match, shows you can’t play runaway in boxing. Your Ali vid did not show anything to validate constant running or clinching, look at Ali shelling up in the ropes, not clinching his opponent to turn himself out of that situation… neither did he run through out the rounds. You are the only casual fan who gets his “knowledge” from the internet and no matter how much you want to spam your stupidity you have buried yourself with your own references
I grew up with a boxing family who loved boxing and fighting.
UFC was a big thing for my dad and uncles to watch. This is real.
Not to mention, holyfield, camacho, ward, de la hoya, tyson, lewis, jcc, trinidad, hopkins…
The thing is you get appreciation. Pacquiao was sort of something that just came but every big boxing fight we watched growing up.
Yeah. When we got dudes who have never seen fighting critiquing guys on being bitches. Then go ahead and watch basketball. Fuck man.
I grew up watching Boxing as a man.
I am scared because I’m seeing guys claim knowledge of boxing, and claim that they practice the sport which scares me because they are the same people who have said “IF YOU WANT FIGHTING, WATCH UFC/K1 or something, this Boxing… it’s not supposed to be about fighting and entertainment”. What kind of boxing are you guys doing to give you that point of view of the sport?
I have not read the rest of what Cutwest was talking about and regardless of who he was arguing with, he already lost the argument to me. And even though my posts were good there is a poster who is even Greater than I and if he was here, he would decimate Cutwest just like he did with every single atheist in the past SRK religion threads.
Yeah, Cuz me posting :trollface: faces at the end of some of my comments don’t prove im slightly trolling one bit at all. Wow! Nothing sure gets past you Captain obvious LOL!
So you claim Im a troll. Then say I lost an argument…for using troll tactics? I see the short yellow bus has done you wonders.
Firstly. You’d be surprised how stupid dcafs can be. I have no choice BUT to use images and videos like a popup picture book to get my point across as quiet evident seeing as my dcaf detractors have the reading attention span of a newborn baby squirrel. So no SHIT! Sherlock. =/
Secondly. Again, If you’d READ my post, I explained EVERYTHING. And you wouldn’t look like a self-righteous dumb dick right now. =/ That supposed self-refutation argument has since…been refuted. Read up on it then fuck off.
You’re basically repeating and going the same route that other jackass I benched with. I see you’re gonna share his same faith soon enough. That argument has already been refuted. Read up on it then fuck off.
Then you obviously didn’t watch the video. Ali did more backing up and clinching when Foreman pinned him against the ropes than Mayweather did clinching Pacroids. Face it, you ol school hypocrites got exposed. Deal with it.
Again, you obviously didn’t watch the video if you think that. Ali is basically doing the SAME exact shit you dcafs criticize floyd doing. “Block, Counter, Clinch, Rinse, Repeat.”
Yeah, cuz the 1st round didn’t show Ali backing up and “running” from Foreman’s until he got pinned against the ropes at all. Thus causing Ali to get in a couple 1, 1-2, 1-2-3 pot shots than clinch for dear life. Again, Rinse, and repeat. Yet he’s considered a great, and floyd is considered a “running” chicken for doing just that. So dumb casual ass hypocritical fans confirmed.
The way you’re typing im HONESTLY starting to think that you’re a sock account of Zatalcon. But either way. You don’t box, and have never box in your life. So again, you can’t tell me shit. Hate to look like an ass for saying that but it’s the truth.
The rest of what you have said I’ve already explained and I said I wasn’t gonna repeat myself then, and im not gonna repeat myself now for your amusement. Everything that I have stated and BACKED UP with is there for you to read.
So damage control all you want. But the fact still remains…
NEXT!?
You know what fuck this. Biolink is right. I’m tired of repeating myself and going back in forth with you dcafs repeating the same crap over and over and over again. There is no getting through to you guys.
Especially when you dummies dont have the balls to debate me point by point. Just cherry pick the things that I have already laid to rest and go from there. Everything I’ve said is explained and there for you to read when you’re not lazy and lacking proper reading comprehensibility. I’ve said my piece and typed enough. If you bitches are still THAT slow to comprehend what’s being said afterwards then that’s your own short comings not mine.
So obviously SOMEONE has to be the mature man about this, and clearly I am the only one capable of doing such. I don’t wanna ruin this thread anymore due to you dcaf detractors catching butthurt feelings from my irrefutable factual. So im block benchin all you bitches LOL!
Don’t comment to me anymore regarding this topic. It’s old, I’ve laid it to rest, I won, and it’s done. Those doing so WILL get ignored on the spot and I will NOT read your response whatsoever. If you guys don’t wanna read what I write it’s only fair I give yall the same treatment. You HAVE been warned.
Annnnnnd DONE! Ok. NOW we can all talk CURRENT boxing.
I don’t need the troll faces to determine a troll. You are a troll because you were owned and you still want to reply with long ass posts to show what a douchebag you are.
I think you lost but i admit i only read half way of your argument with Zat because everything else was just trolling.
But you are the one who is the casual fan just look at the misinfo you are giving and the immaturity in your replies. The way you reply shows your age level and it’s obvious you were never a long time fan. People who use “Pactard” are children from facebook.
You didn’t explain anything. You just posted a huge long post that contained nothing but trolling and the contents you felt you explained were just bad.
Deal with it, is the truth. There is no running away in boxing. You posted a video of Oscar loosing because he ranaway during the last rounds of the match so what more for a guy who ran the entire match? You can make the claim that Mayweather had counters here and there, but Oscar was winning the entire fight until he started running. He landed more hits and combinations than Floyd did on Manny and he didn’t hug his opponent to get him out of the ropes/corner.
Again, you obviously didn’t watch the video if you think that. Ali is basically doing the SAME exact shit you dcafs criticize floyd doing. “Block, Counter, Clinch, Rinse, Repeat.”
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Ali never ran in that match, you can even see how he was laying in the ropes blocking Foreman’s punches. You can’t even concentrate on what you are arguing about and you don’t see how useless your video of Ali vs Foreman is. Ali won that fight by knocking Foreman out at the 8th round. Ali would of lost that match if he did not do that. The points were shown during that fight and Foreman was winning because he was the aggressor and during the 6th round, Ali was starting to engage. You can see how Foreman was already tired as hell by the 5th round. You showed a match where the defensive fighter managed to win against the dominant aggressor through a KO not trough points so this is not a good argument for you. How does this show that going on the defensive and landing occasional pop shots can make a fighter score points :(.
I’m not Zatalcon and you doing boxing does not impress me because anybody can sign up for boxing and still know jackshit about what the sport was always about. You do not know anything about boxing just based on your reply to me. Stick to trolling that’s the only thing valuable in your posts.
With that being said Adrian Broner vs Shawn Porter has been announced for June 20th at MGM Grand.
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With that being said Adrian Broner vs Shawn Porter has been announced for June 20th at MGM Grand.
I posted that last page I think, lol. Broner, since I am from Cincinnati you’d think I’d like him, but honestly I feel he hasn’t really found his own style and is trying to imitate Floyd’s style too much. Funny thing is a friend of the family taught him in HS and basically said if he didn’t find boxing he was basically fucked in society.
But I don’t mind the thick females in the beginning of the video though, lol.
Everything I wanted to say about this matchup Dontae’s video pretty much already covered just that. I think Porter will stop Broner UNLESS Broner has improved. Seeing as Porter is a way better aggressive fighter than Maidana is and you see how that fight turned out for AB. I really just hope AB finally got his head out of his ass and can prove me wrong by showing how much he’s improved since that fight with Maidana. This is a big test for AB. If he can get past Porter then I have no doubt in my mind he ices Maidana in the rematch. That is If that nigga ever loses the 50lbs he has gained for that fight to ever be a possibility again.
And yeah, I’m rooting for AB if you couldn’t already tell LOL!
My wife was saying how she hopes he gets it together because she thinks he is “good” for boxing. I hope he gets his shit together as well and actually focuses on his training and really improving, but he is not what is good for boxing imo. From what I have been hearing is that he has been focusing in though. I think AB can take it because he doesn’t want to be embarassed like he was against Maidana, so I am certain he has improved. I’m not an AB fan by any means, but it should make for a good fight.
I trained in Cincinnati and a lot of gyms (including mine) talked about other gyms and fighters and trust me AB was the topic after he fought Maidana. I remember coach breaking it down one day. But either way lets hope he has improved.
Getting fucked up for maidana was good for Broner’s psyche