Are you on PSN?
Yep. If on xbox live send a message to SGLeroy. If on PSN talk to old Swoops here. I myself know Bob almost as well as anybody but I do not have the skills to implement it so playing me would be pretty worthless.
I wouldn’t obsessively learn the Bob matchup just yet though because he is gaining so many options (and a few minor nerfs to a few current ones) that he is going to play very differently in 2013
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Yep. If on xbox live send a message to SGLeroy. If on PSN talk to old Swoops here. I myself know Bob almost as well as anybody but I do not have the skills to implement it so playing me would be pretty worthless.
I wouldn’t obsessively learn the Bob matchup just yet though because he is gaining so many options (and a few minor nerfs to a few current ones) that he is going to play very differently in 2013
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So I was messing with meaty far st.MK today. Bob is the shit…
You say this every few weeks now Swoops, what did you find this time?
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There’s not particularly much to say. Far MK just has monster active frames, like close HK. At best it can be +7/+3.
So you can easily do meaty wake up traps with st.MK, make them think you’re going for an overhead and instead use cr.LK for low > target combo. Also, if you use meaty st.MK, the overhead actually combos.
Wait, wait, whu-huh? Gaufrettes Punch connecting without counterhit in a situation? Dude stop doing your voodoo magic I very much like the world as it is thank you.
Sigh, so much for Christie as my main anchor <<
Did I see a wild swoops put the fear of Bob into Dieminion? Hrmmm? 
Oh nice you caught that? Lol I was just looking for the stream archive to watch it. Hopefully it was entertaining and I did bob some justice at least.
What killed me was I just being my usual stubborn self. I had him in the corner and for some reason I didn’t back off and get Abel in. Oh well, next time I guess 
I have some sweet new bob info though, but I’ll need to post a little later tonight
I need to learn how to Bob properly…mine is still way too terrible.
Oh you were the Bob player, Swoops? That was some nice stuff on stream. I’ve been trying to learn him and it’s been a bit rough because my inputs fuck up for whatever reason and I get his Ball instead of the Special dash. Special Dash LP only comboing on counter hit kinda sucks too. =/
Hrm, you’re getting spinner ball instead? That’s interesting, you might just be sitting on down back too much and directly transitioning from that. I mean it’s not terrible to get spinner ball LP as it usually combos and is safe on block (plus sets you up for decent st.LP traps) but it definitely doesn’t net you a combo. Try letting go of down back to neutral when you know you’re going for special step, and then doing the DP motion into kick, at least till you get a feel for it. Not sure what you mean about langue washer (special step + LP) only working on counter hit though. Do you mean from medium normals? I just go into cr.LP, cr.HP xx langue by default (trying to change this up though) as a BnB.
I might be sitting on down back too much, that’s possible but it’s a bit of an issue at times coming from standing cancelable normals too. It might just be my controller though.
What I mean about Langue Washer is that I tried landing it from a cancelable move in training and it never hits because the AI recovers and blocks before it lands. I thought it might be because you’re getting a counterhit and increases the stun or something maybe. It could just be that I’m not inputting Langue Washer fast enough after canceling my normal.
Are you doing it from cr.HP?
Yeah, just work on the timing. HK special step > langue washer should always connect after heavy normals if you get the langue washer to come out as soon as possible. If I’m confirming whether I was blocked or not I’ll usually take a split second to decide between langue washer or dash+LK for sweep. That slight delay is usually when I find myself not comboing with langue washer.
So my advice would just be to confirm that you’re going to be using special step ahead of time in a combo, and input LP as immediately as you can.
Ah yeah, it looks like cr.Hp works but cr.MP doesn’t.
is doing st.mp into his special step options safe? i usually go into his sweep and it allows me to do another st.mp into another sweep.
after an AA cr.hp, should i cancel into lk special step? or do a CADC?
Well a lot of his special step options themselves are safe on block. LP is -2, LP+MP is +2, choppa after sweep is -5 but has massive pushback.
Going into those options from medium attacks has a pretty big frame gap though. I’ve even got poked out of the cr.HP xx langue washer series on block quite a few times. Cr.HP xx sweep is pretty air tight though, so I’m not sure how medium attacks into sweep are.
Both hits of the après sweep are launch-able though. And the sweep is -9. If it hits though you are +/-0 so st.LP pressure is really good afterwards.
Both cr.HP xx special step and cr.HP xx spinner ball are pretty bad ideas as anti airs. If you get a CH you can reap some pretty big rewards, so if you have one stored I guess go for it. If its not counter hit then you’re pretty damn punishable when the opponent lands. I wanna say that CADC works best but honestly I usually just use solo cr.HP.
I didn’t really get punished by using his sweep a lot.