Uuh so if lag DOES make the game unplayable, I get harshly punished for agreeing to a draw instead of rolling a dice to determine the winner? That’s retarded.
People with same amount of wins but more games total listed in front is sensible (and what’s usually done)*, but anything beyond that would be dumb. With your suggestion someone going 0-7 would place better than someone going 2-0 <_>
*As in, you just type down Wins-Losses, and then it looks like this:
I’ll probably make it just half a point or something.
The second we start getting TOO detailed, shit gets messy. I might just change the value of wins and losses. Wins might be something like 4 or 3.
Don’t you think “Wins count 1 point, losses 0; on same amount of wins, the guy with more losses places higher” is less complicated/messy than “Wins count as 4 pts, losses as 0.5” or smth along those lines?
What about draws?
What should they count as?
It’s also really hard to determine proper placing.
3 people can get 2 wins and 2 loses and 2 draws, now how do we place them with your system?
With a “point for loss” system, we can determine placing with a little precision.
Let’s say in those 3, one person won set and lost a set, and the other two straight lost.
He is now in a higher place.
If I add up all the points from each person from each round, we can get an accurate ranking.
Lets say at the end of round 1, Zidane has 3 wins and 2 loses (THINKING ABOUT CHANGING SHIT TO A BO5 AND NOT FT5) and I have 2 wins and 3 losses.
He has more points than me, even though we both lost to our opponents in the first round.
It would be annoying, but accurate, and I’m willing to put in the work.
A draw is a “not played game”, so it doesn’t appear in the statistics at all. I’d only count wins and losses.
Regarding placement of multiple persons with the same score, there are multiple tiebreaker variants (Buchholz, Sonneborn-Berger, direct comparison) … I don’t know how this tournament is run (round robin? swiss sys?) since I ain’t participating and didn’t read one bit, but if you need help there I can do so.
It’s run Round Robin.
By the end of the week I want as many people to play as many as possible.
Which is why I don’t like not counting draws.
You shouldn’t be punished (you are going to be, just not as harsh) for getting a bad connection for someone.
If you get a bad connection, your play that round is automatically forfeit, which gives people who had better connections and advantage simply because they connected better.
I’m still confused. I think my suggestion punishes people way less than yours does…
2 wins, 2 losses, 2 draws = tied for whatever shitty placing no one cares about. It aint rocket science, ties happen in double elim as well.
A tie just means that in this one tournament the tieers all “placed” the same and therefor performed the same in the tournament.
If shit gets real and the15th place players really care what their order is then just let them hold their own tiebreaker…
But iwouldnt expect anyone to really care about ties in anything that isnt a paid placing spot, amd since this tournie doesnt have prizes iirc, it matters even less.
-dime
If there is a tie between two players I think the best way is to look at the result of their match to decide. If they didn´t play against each other or if it is a draw it can be looking who has more wins or wins per match.
Soooo where can we find the brakets?
Yeah, why aren’t the brackets posted yet?
Guys, I can honestly say that this is going to take more than a month to finish up just the XBL side if we’re going round robin style.
EDIT: Fuck it, let me post this shit now:
having to keep track of have many matches each person has won would be crazy. its much easier to just do straight win/loss. i did FT5 with the two people i played yesterday but cant remember how many games we took each now, just who won and who lost.
this is all progress though, any discussion will help us reach the end ruleset that much quicker.
also i might add that anybody who is playing on XBL to add the gamertag
aBOBSKULLGIRLSa
this is specifically to help people find matches more easily. ive already added a bunch of people who are playing to the list, and awaiting more people to accept the request. if i havent added you then just send a request of your own. i know some peoples friends lists were full.
edit : fucking hell DL pisses me off. not one person enters from their side of things yet they are plenty happy to complain that the patch needs to come soon to re-ignite interest in the game again.
My friend request for the BOB metatag is pending, Zidane you can find me through the SRK metatag though.
I’ll be around for about another hour, gone for two, then back for another four. So if I’m not already idling in unranked waiting for someone, I’m probably playing Dark Souls. So just send me an invite and I’ll be right there.
Also, since it’s Round Robin. Can’t I just play anyone on the list and post results? If so, this goes out to anyone who is playing against me. Even if we shouldn’t be playing, just invite me anyway. I just want to actually play this game with someone.
GT: KoloradoKush420
edit - This first bracket is just for teams, right?
ill add you to the gamertag in a few mins.
also, yes that is what i have been doing. i wouldnt worry about the order you play people, just as long as you try and play everyone who is on the list.
yes, teams only this week
Me and RepleteSplash82 just played a BO5, I won 3-0.
Not sure if you guys want us to do a FT5 though. Replete just offered a BO5. If that’s the case then we can just replay some other time and that match won’t count.
GGs Replete
ANYONE HAS AN HOUR TO MAKE A THREAD
THAT THREAD WILL HOLD THE RESULTS FOR WINS AND LOSSES
XBOX WINS WILL BE DONE IN BOLD
AND PS3 WILL BE DONE IN UNDERLINES
The irc isn’t just for the tournament but the #Skullgirls channel has existed for quite a while now. Although I’m pretty sure I’m the only person to say anything in it in the past two or three months.