The Beast From the East - the KoFXII Shen Woo thread -

I can lend some of my experience with Shen too

-d.B, d.A, qcf+B, qcf+B, qcfx2+P DM
-j.D, s.C/d.C/s.D, f+B, qcfx2+P DM or (qcf+P~qcf+K~qcfx2+P)
-hcb~f+C, (qcf+K~qcfx2+P DM) or s.D
-qcb+A~qcf+A/(qcf+K~qcfx2+P DM)

Think these were mentioned above; some minor adjustments:
j.D, s.C/d.C/s.D, CD, qcf+C (has be C) or qcfx2+P DM
j.D, s.C/d.C/s.D, f+B, hcb~f+C, qcf+K, s.A/qcfx2+P DM

Basically, qcf+P, qcb+A, hcb~f+C, qcf+K (itself) can followed into qcf+K which then combos into qcfx2+P DM. The timing however, is really tricky. As mentioned above, hcb~f+P into qcf+K is almost immediate, whereas the other three are much slower. Arcadia mentions the timing is critical, and not the easiest to do–I suppose it makes it fair since he’s one of the few (if not the only) that can Super Cancel.

-qcf+C charged fully is unblockable and will cause the opponent to slump over (simiar to a guard crush Charged.CD) and does sick damage to boot .

Note: Once his fits starts glowing it is unblockable however it’s no longer stoppable with D once it reaches this stage. Curiously, you cannot do a full combo, if you dash and do a s.C, f+B, the f+B will whiff completely. So far, I managed to do a qcfx2+DM after the qcf+C and it’s freaking damaging for 2 hits. I assume you can do CD into DM after the qcf+C

-d.Bx3, s.B is a great block string and real safe. You can add f+C to poke them if they try to retaliate.

EDIT: Arcadia’s CC combo for Shen:
(Near Corner) qcfx2+P DM, s.C, qcf+C (counter ends here), CD, qcf+C~qcf+K, qcf+A~qcf+K, s.D ~ 66%

From the Japanese message boards:
CC: qcf+C-qcf+K -> qcf+C -> qcf+C -> qcf+A-qcf+K -> qcf+A-qcf+K-> qcfx2+P DM

Just D cancels his qcf+C (charge).

On a side note, I’ve been hearing this alot on the boards and even in the Arcades (prolly coz ppl read from these boards) that the standing C (s.C as you can tell us KOFers prefer this notation) is just that, no need to hold back. I heard someone in Arcade Infinity today say that back + C is the way to start critical counter for such and such, but that’s just not the case–just s.C or s.D (if you’re Clark, Duo Lon or Kim).

This deserves a separate post.

So I’ve been struggling with the qcf+K 1frame follow up from the qcf+P and I finally got it down to a certain consistency.

Everyone has different “markers” whether it be timing or sound or opponent’s visual etc. Lemme explain, I first had a bit of success by pondering “after the qcf+P, what is the latest I can input the qcf+K, while watching the opponent’s recovery.” That worked well for a bit and it was my first breakthrough. What I noticed however, what really messed my timing up was when I countered the opponent making them stagger it tricked me to think it was a real 2 hit combo. Furthermore, if you like doing CD into qcf+C juggles, you can’t really study the opponent’s frames since they’re being juggled.

So I had to go back to staring and studying Shen again. Instead of studying his twisting hit frame (which Arcadia teaches you to do), I press the K button right as his fist retracts from the opponent; so as it JUSTs leaves the body I press B already.

I dunno if this helps anyone (hopefully someone finds this useful) but I’ve been struggling with this FOREVER and I have every intention of mastering it.

I’d been trying it and it is a lot harder than I thought.When should I start inputing the motion? when it hits?

I found a decent CC combo yesterday works anywhere (Should at least)
qcb+A, qcf+A, qcf+C, qcf+C (CC ends) qcfx2+P

Shame Shen can’t combo a qcf+A from a light attack.

I use Back+C, but only cause I dont want to get a Fwd+C when I want a cl.C (or D)

Im having problems with his C-A-B-C : Explosion super. How do I do it?

Shen has some very hard inputs on his moves. Are they one frames like his command grab into launcher?

Wait. How do you hold the controller or stick?
And for that super, you have to input them in sequence fast. Same for Ash.

I have inputted them very fast? Im guessing it works like Akuma’s Ultra.

I use stick.

Perfect. A stick should do fine.
And yeah it’s similar to Akuma, except you kinda have to input it x1.5 faster.

Thx for the heads up.:tup:

I’d like to know this as well, I’ve yet to get the timing down.

The move list in the game vs the first post on this page seem to differ IIRC, did he lose the command grab or did I misread something?

the motion for the grab is actually :qcb::r:+:p:

as for his Bakuten (Explosion) super, hit the buttons FAST BUT SEPARATELY.
since the command calls for A and B, it’s really easy to roll on accident.

A strong ass Shen CC midscreen is

CC, CD, qcf+c, Qcf+c, qcf+a, CD, super. Does mad damage. I made a corner one that foes a fuckton and can be broken to setup a reset mixup, but I forget all the mover tight now. Pretty sure it did over 6-- though…

No wonder it was so hard to pull off the throw from close range. The commands in this game is so precise.

A midscreen CC i did that did around 442 I believe was

CC start, CD, qcf+c (x3), dash up, CD, qcf+c, qcf+b ender , reset with d

I only got this once since the qcf+c ender is so funly to time. I wanna se if you can do a super or something at the end.

I had the rhythm down for the punch ender for a while but I lost it again. It’s around the point when his left hand (non punching hand) comes back around from the spin if that helpf anyone. It was like a one…two type of rhythm

thanks.

if you’re in the corner at the end instead of 236C do
236A xx 236b, 236A xx 236B
depending on how high up they were when you did the CD you might be able to get another 236B out then either cancel to 236236C or CABC on their way down…if you CAN’T get the extra 236B out…then…well…just do the supers anyway

for the just frame throw…I had a little bit of luck with doing the motion then tapping DBD VERY quickly…but even with this method I have about a 10%success

jump in, C, f.B, 632146C xx 236B xx 236236C is a LOT of damage

Gotta try that, but I still have trouble with the followups on his moves.:sad:

You mean the uppercut? Yeah that shit’s sticky as hell

heres a strong combo i did [media=youtube]gnudf_XLeRE[/media]

Damn, that was fancy with the jump :lol:
How much DMG was it?