I guess I haven’t seen any good A-Kens. I was under the impression that the quote was concerning Vega and Chun raping Kim…Maybe I read it wrong.
A-Kens that I’ve played tend not to do too well against Kim, but that’s just my experience. Come to think of it, I never hear of any good A-Kens. You obviously know better than I do. I apologize.
theres a reason you dont see A-kens…lol!
Blanka to answer your question
I dont think that guy could possibly be serious about A Ken.
:rolleyes: @ that title…
Some reasons instead of posting like a twelve year old please…
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I know that kim does well against a large portion of the cast but I think vega and chun are his worst matchups. both can jump on him almost for free, if he has no charge. c.mkxxqcb+k is risky against them also because of their small size when crouching. S.fierce is almost useless, so he has to stick with using c.roundhouse, s.lk and c.mk for poking. The best thing kim has in this matchup is that his j.fierce will go right through chuns AA and vegas AA’s. But at the same time jumping is risky since again, chun and vega are small when crouching. This matchup is totally in vegas favor 7-3 and chun 6-4.
Take a look at the ECC9 Js Master vs Lifetimeboy CVS2 match and see how a good Chun can tear up Bison.
out of curiosity, what ARE kim’s matchup? in your opinion(groove specific included if needed).
as for the chun > A-bison. is it ANY chunli? or is it groove specific(i.e. C/A/N- chun)?
(the)geese: thanks for the link, who does the site belong to? i’ve never seen that site before. (currently d/ling vid w/ 28.8k since i’m home for break. grr.)
I havnt played the game in years so i guess things have changed perhaps but to add my 2cents.
I dont think vega or chun rape kim, I think they beat him though. But I think in genral smaller characters have a edge over kim slgihtly…Also I will say that kim does better vs vega then he does chun. chun punishes much harder then vega does imo. And gives kim way more troubles. As for anti air ummmm jump mk should beat just about anything they do, giving that you are anticapteing there jump somewhat. shrug…
I consider gief a counter more so to kim then chun or vega though.
and on a random note, I never belived kim to beat hibiki as everyone use to say. Dunno if thats still the case, but I remember it always use to be siaid that he did and i just dont see it at all.
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kim does bad vs blanka…good vs sagat…eh vs cammy,and horrid vs guile
How do i fight against Vega (claw) and Bison (police man)?
I use Blanka, Sagat, Cammy and Kyo in P groove.
**Bison (police man) **:
I mainly fight Bison with: Cammy and Sagat
-I have a really hard time anti airing him. His jump confuses me, every time I DO try and aa him, he is either over my AA or I miss time it.
-His roll throws me off so much. Me and my opponent will be crouching at around Bison’s c.mk distance. All of a sudden Bison rolls and either activates or throws me. I hate that shit, it’s so quick I can’t throw it. And when I c.lk to stop him, he’ll just activate!
-What do I do with my characters (specifically Sagat and Cammy) to fight off Bison’s weird ass jump?
Vega (claw)
I mainly fight Vega with: Kyo and Blanka
-c.mp is KILLING ME! I try and use Kyo’s s.hk, yet it always gets stuffed. I also try Blanka’s c.mk or (at propper ranges) c.hp. However no matter what It keeps getting stuffed!
-Vega’s jump is WAY to fast for me to handle. This player does (on my wake up) s.lk, jump straight up, falling hk. I really have no idea to fight against a Vega who just jumps straight up when he’s at such a close range. It’s to fast, for me to AA!
-Vega’s RC crystal flash (I think thats what it’s called) is just killing me. Whenever I am close, people just rc lp crystal flash, and it puts me out of range. From here I’m susceptable to c.mp, my most hated poke in the game. There’s no hitting Vega when he pushes me away. Learned that from random scrubs doing rc crystal flash, (when crystal flash is done), Red impact.
All in all Vega (claw) is really killing me. Can I get some help?
i dont wanna be a prick but i really didnt want this thread turned into a “help me with _vs.”
i dont think vega kills kim at all.
kim’s blocked moves can make vega’s mask and claw come off quick. and lets not forget his roll. his roll is prolly the best in the game and any characters with a good roll gives vega a hard time.
Ken A-groove rules except versus Sagat and Cammy. IMO even you put RC.
Ummm kim does very well against all of those characters. If blanka wants to RC ball, he’s gets punished by a lvl 3 super regardless if the ball hits or if it’s blocked. blanka can’t duck s.fierce, and a crossup leads to some nasty stuff. Kim can AA blanka pretty well also
Sagat is big and likes to walk way too much, i’m sure you can figure out what to do here.
What’s guile gonna do vs kim. throw rc booms to make him jump? kim’s j.fierce beats all of guiles normal AA’s. Guile can’t duck kims s.fierce and kims dash goes over guiles c.mk.
out of all of those matchups he does the worst against cammy. blanka, sagat, and guile are tall characters which gives kim a lot more options with his offense.
A Ken…I’ve used him before. He’s better in C groove though. There are better A Chars…I’d rather use Sakura, Blanka, Bison, Geese etc. MagnetoManiac…I think the only reason you think A Ken can rape any other character is because you set it to Ratio 3. I’ll probably kill you with just A Sakura and A Bison (2). First A Sak can pretty much kill Yun easily with RC fireballs, cross over mks into some normals into DP + Fierce. Then by the time you’re dead, I’ll have full meter and some considerable life left. Your Ken comes in and I still have Sak. I’ll probably roll behind you and activate. You’ll block and eat my CC with chip damage (unless you know how to alpha counter). After that I’ll just build some meter for Bison until my Sak dies. Then it’s A Bison. I get you into the corner somehow and paint the fence on you. You’ll most likely have very little life left and activate and I’ll block. GGPO.
That’s just like a match scenario. Nothing against but that’s how you’ll get beat (and how A Ken probably ISN’T that good). I’m only assuming I can beat you since 1) I saw your thread in CVS2 forum and 2)You use Yun 1 and Ken 3.
WOW MISS CLEO UR FUCKING PRO PREDICTING LIKE THAT DAMN UR TOO GOOD.
YOU WIN!
yo mickey d
i fight claw vega with blanka usually, vegas usually pretty annoying, but i only watch for a couple of things. always be ready to do jump straight up fierce against him. and everytime hes in his poking zone, its like 90% of the time a down parry, granted ur really just guessing, but everytime u guess right, the rewards are better with blanka cuz u do more damage and maybe knock him down.
if he wakeup rc crystal flash, u can always jump straight up to avoid it and then hit him from behind again. Or cross him up with mk and chip his ass with electricity so he loses his charge and most likely his claw or mask or sth.
im pretty n00bish so take wut i say with a grain of salt haha
dont give kim too much kredit scrubs…your gonna start sounding like a “DaN RoOlZ” thread
A shoo. Thanks Ron, your not noobish that stuff helps a lot! I said it before man, your come back gainst that other BC guy was fun to watch. Yur Sagat’s buff. Thanks for the info mang!
Srry for turning my post into “Help me with______VS______” Deus. I’m out and THANK YOU RON!