The ANTI Chie/Mitsuru thread #f*ckchie #f*ckmitsuru

This works in low ranking games. And a lot of decent people are probably not going to meteor point blank.

I’ll take a bet that most people who are losing to Mitsuru are doing so because they aren’t recognizing when she’s frame trapping them and they shouldn’t move. But IMO, most everyone has something that’ll help them get out.

Disruptor-desu… Shield slash-desho…

Haven’t run into very many Chies online, but Mitsuru is totally destroying me :frowning:

I spent the night getting bodied by a Mitsuru player, like wtf at this character. Her pokes outrange all of Yukikos normals and just obliterate any well spaced persona attacks. My favorite part is that if I make a mistake I eat 5k damage and if she does she eats 1500… or 300 from a fan.

That matchup honestly feels like its 8-2.

Her frame traps seem fairly easy to recognize, the problem is is that you are out of range for any reversals to hit, except for maybe lab and s.lab. If you jump you get hit, since up back is so bad in this game, and if you evasive action she has recovered in time from a wiffed 5a to punish you. At least this seemed to be my experience playing Yukiko against her.

Jees, it’s like wesker all over again…

You win the internet.

As a mitsuru player (and chie subber…), I’d actually like to know the frame data on her moves. Stuff like her sweep and coup attacks, I’ve never seen them punished on block nor have I been able to punish them. At times, on block for A Coup, my opponent (or me if I’m fighting Mitsuru) could hit first if mitsuru tried something else, other times it seemed like she was at advantage (maybe it’s a timing issue as I haven’t done much testing).

Also, I can I trademark the name hidden meteors?

I dont see what the big deals is on the meteors, alot of people have full screen wesker style ones, The dude Yu has every tool in the book .i dont know if the mofo dive kicked me tonight Plus a electric car slide. does he have a dive kick or am i tripping…he is now known as baby Ragna

Yeah fuck Meteors.

OH HAI IM A RUSHDOWN CHARACTER AND IM ALL THE WAY OVERHERE I NEEDS A WAY TO GET BACK IN

Really?

I mean come on, she gets two fucking versions for fuck sakes. I have to guess how brain dead she’s going to be.

Also I play Mits~

When fighting against Mitsuru, be wary of trying to use 2A to poke her out of her blockstrings, because if she predicts it, she can just use any variant on 5B to hop over it and get a fatal counter in your face. And given the low damage you get off of most characters’ 2A’s without a large meter investment, it’s usually not worth the risk/reward.

And I’ll take a bet that you’re a Mitsuru player. Safe bet, she’s a redhead like Parasoul. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve definitely done Kanji’s D grab through meteors a few times like in the vid, so satisfying. From farther away as kanji if I don’t get hit by the meteors right away lightning works at knocking her out of it and leaves her paralyzed. Kanji’s IK might also work against it from farther away but that’s pretty situational.

Guilty as charged. Funnily enough, I play 'em both with their white/blue alts.

Agreed, I love her pressure, but I really want to know exactly how safe I actually am (or am not) with this stuff. Sometimes I get beaten out by the weirdest things.

EX Coup actually looks pretty unsafe. I’m fairly sure it’s more punishable than A (which is counter-intuitive to me, I’m used to EX usually being the safest version of a move). A Coup feels like -2 or so. Fast enough to be safe but still negative enough for people to beat out your normals if you try to keep pressing buttons after it. I’ve had people reversal super after it while I was trying to stick another 5A out, so there’s gotta be at least enough frames in between for them to get that input out (7~12?).

A lot of characters can get out fairly easily. Kanji can grab her if she gets too comfortable, Narukami and other Mitsurus can DP, Elizabeth can do her reversal throw (it’s got a shitload of invincibility and range), Akihiko/Naoto/Chie can counter her pokes.

Of course, Mitsuru also has ways of baiting and punishing all these things, so it goes back and forth. But her frame traps by themselves aren’t as scary as they look at first.

tears, delicious tears

Yeah, the more I play against both Chie and Mitsuru the more comfortable I feel blocking their mixups. I still get super salty over their damage though, I feel like I’m playing UMvC3 with just one character and they have a full team in XF3. /Exaggeration

Mitsuru isn’t really built around mixups though. She’s reliant more on frame traps and baiting you into bad pokes so that she can punish them. It’s more a matter of finding the right thing to punish her with.

more like, we need a anti kanji and kunai guy thread.

most annoying chars so far imo.

thats a mixup

Yeah I play Mits and these two are far worse then the my chick or even Ahiko.

Especally the Kunai guy, jesus shit what an annoying little twat.