The Ameяican Government Thread

Deporting people won’t matter if they can just walk freely across the border.

Get that wall built, send national guard and reserves to help border patrol to ensure border security.
CIA probably won’t like having that wall slow down their black budget of drug trafficking.

The wall makes no sense. Just make pay way better for border patrol

Helping Middle and South Americans is ultimately going to a good thing, but I see this as an asset to trade for rejecting Middle Eastern/North African migrants. By giving this up now, he will have to deal with leftist pressure for MENA migrants later. The end goal is to say because you only have so much resources and you can only help so many people, you chose South Americans over MENA migrants because South Americans are less risky and more relateable.

Right now he’s not negotiating from an advantageous position and it makes him look desperate.

Trump’s problem is his current presentation and strategy. He said stupid shit and gets picked apart. If he hadn’t lost his mode, he wouldn’t have needed to do this right now. He has to get his shit together again before he can start negotiating.

With all that’s at stake Trump’s shift to the center on immigration was predictable. He needs a higher ceiling of voters and he’s not getting it done with what he has. I watched both Hannity shows and I can see this is not just a pitch to Hispanics but to women too.

Very soon Crooked Hillary is going to give a speech on Alt-right and try to convince people that Trump is racist and also hates women. I don’t think this is a good move for a number of reasons but I’m guessing she wants to see what will stick. With her deteriorating health I’ll be impressed if she does 20 minutes unseated.

it didn’t at the time, and iirc, CNN or some other bullshit left wing source published a piece about it and that’s where the “demagogue” crap started happening. They didn’t refer to that particular response, but it started picking up steam after that.

IIRC, he immediatly said after that remark that he will still going deport people back. He didn’t explicitly say all of them, but he said there will be deportations.

Trump has to pivot to the hispanic and black vote and he can’t win without them because the white vote is extremely splintered right now. The support for trump from black and hispanic voters exists based on certain assumptions

There are enough middle class blacks that make some semblance of real money that would vote for Trump, but that a super minority
There is certainly a sizable portion of the hispanic vote that will vote for trump based on the fact that they immigrated here legally. Not only did they “wait”, they spent real money to be here, the idea that some asshole can come here for free won’t sit well with them especially since these assholes will now have the means to compete with them over blue collar jobs. T
There’s a group of hispanics that are older, 2nd or 3rd gen to US and possibly don’t speak Spanish don’t like when being spoken to in Spanish, and don’t like the idea of how “rampant” welfare and drug use is in this country plus the jobs situation, these people will vote for Trump.

What trump needs though is more hispanic support, however this can be an issue because a lot of hispanic people my age are or where Sander supporters, are for open borders and or easy immigration, have or know illegals.

it will alienate or put some off, but not enough. In what he can lose in voters he can probably make up with on the fence voters. Everybody should have been smart enough to know that Trump wasn’t going to deport people en mass, especially since he knows he has a few of them working for him for dirt cheap and that they are an important force in the construction industry in keeping rates low. If he was serious about immigration as he said he was, he would have talked about passing ludicrious fines on companies that hired illegals.

that is the fastest and easiest way to get rid of the illegal problem, possibly the cheapest as well

its not that border patrol doesn’t get paid well, border patrol simply has too much land to cover to be effective. As long as drugs remain illegal in the US, cartels and individuals will have a financial motives to find ways through the border. An easy way to choke and slow illegal immigration is to kill the need for routes accross the border. Human trafficking doesn’t make enough money by itself.

I didn’t think about this, and that’s a really good point.

This hillary speech is fire fam.

I FUCKS WITH IT.

“Now, I’ve not seen what Hillary is going to say, but I’ve heard about it. And, in a sense, I don’t want to dignify her statements by dwelling on them too much, but a response is required for the sake of all decent voters that she is trying to smear. When Democratic policies fail, they are left with only this one tired argument. ‘You’re racist, you’re racist, you’re racist,’ they keep saying it, ‘you’re racist.’ It’s a tired, disgusting argument, and it’s so totally predictable. They’re failing so badly. It’s the last refuge of the discredited Democrat politician. They keep going back to the same well, but you know what? The people are becoming very smart. They’ve heard it too many times before. The well is dry.”

“She’s attacking all of the decent people — of all backgrounds — that support this incredible, once in a life-time movement,”

Trump’s pre-buttal speech was genius. By calling out what racist name calling is, a pathetic nonargument, Trump really undermined her speech and made her look desperate. Her speech was so ironic from her “Mexican proverb” quote that said: “Tell me with whom you walk and I will tell you who you are.” Yes, spoken by the woman surrounding herself by big money donors, wall street and foreign interests. What a silly hag

The main problem here is that if trump was such a racist, why did she take money from him? The whole situation is makes no sense.

Its no secret that the trump campaign has a lot of legitimately racist people supporting it. But all of that means that you went to the wedding of the guy racists love.

Fucking campaign is a shit show.

I couldn’t stand her shrill nagging voice but I listened for 20 minutes. Terrible.

Texas family’s dog was killed by poison and car engine bleached after putting up pro-Hillary sign. The sign was stolen multiple times and swapped with ‘Hillary for prison’ sign.

^ I’m used to hearing about the democrats attacking trump supporters so I had to do a double take this time and see that it was actually the opposite… These people may support the God Emperor but they ought to go to jail. Disgusting behavior.

The wedding thing shows exactly what American politics is becoming. Both Democrats and Republicans are being cut from the same, isolated cloth that uses wealth to remain distant from the American people. The question is, who’s worse, an actual crook or an overgrown brat who got his future handed to him?

He didn’t have his future handed to him :coffee:

Nah, mate, building a billion dollar company from a million dollar loan is clearly getting everything handed to you on a platter.

Trump is a business, particularly marketing, genius. Obscenely talented in media manipulation and wrote one of the best selling business books of all time.

Clearly, ‘handed to him.’

Trump drops Manafort to avoid association with Russia

But with new people comes with new baggage.

Clinton news team has dug up dropped 1996 domestic violence charges against the chairman of Breitbart. He allegedly threatened his then-wife to make her avoid the court appearance so the charges would be dropped.

Sounds like the perfect time for Trump to drop the bombs about Hillary paying off rape accusers.

Did anyone watch Hill’s speech about the alt-right today?

Backfired pretty hard. Alex Jones and Breitbart are having surging view numbers.

Anyone surprised?