The Ameяican Government Thread

So talk about the election has been outlawed here? Got it lol

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bias of what he might likely do and or support? Not all nazi members of the airforce, navy, and or army where for the extermination of jews. Just like not all black folks in the ghetto are about that hood life. But i’m not going to defend their ideology, I just go as far as try and understand why they do it and assume that at an individual level you have people that exceed expectations. But I’m also not going to deny generalizations, they are powerful and useful tools and i’m not going to not use them because not all people are like that. I use that same arguments for the defense of the first and second amendments, as well as justifying why there should be government help for those who couldn’t do without.

Forget the fact that a great number of those people joined in out of fear - survival instinct kicks in. Whether or not they buy into that is impossible to tell from that alone.

You keep whipping that out, but you know that is a gross misuse of statistics. Deliberately using percentages to conflate the magnitudes of slavery ownership among the races.

How about you post instead the actual number of slave owners of each race, the total number of slaves owned by African Americans versus the total number of slaves owned by white Americans, and try using those values to back up your arguments? Your points start to look a lot weaker when the actual numbers are in play, don’t they?

You keep going to the well on a shit fallacy just because people have only weakly called you out on it. Come on, do better. That isn’t the best way to back your shit up. Isn’t even a mediocre way. It’s just lazy.

Actually Bewd and Azure barraged me over it for days. It’s still true.

I know the statistic formula is bullshit, it’s the same one SJW’s use when they are trying to minimize black crime rates or advocate for gun control.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Less than 1.5% of whites owned slaves in this country, yet %100 of us here about it atleast once a day and guilt/demonization education is universal.

Fuck that.

This is a mental illness.

If I’m honest I don’t know the topic of conversation. However, I think it’s pretty obvious that whites owning blacks was the predominant form of slavery during the Colonial Era. Throughout history though I feel you’d have a pretty decent argument if you said whites have been the victims of slavery just as often as blacks (especially Jews). Unfortunately, it’s just something that has happened a lot throughout history and has been done by pretty much everyone (black, white, arab, etc)

We already this argument in another topic lets not start it here.

But your right, but you can’t really mount a demonization campaign against a group if everyone did it.

I would appreciate it if this thread went back to topics pertinent to the election.

Thank you.

Claiming “not all <insert group>” is exactly not an argument. The point is that overall, blacks are making many decisions that are harming themselves.

Not all blacks are hoodrats or career criminals, but overall, look at how much crime they’re committing.

Not all blacks are uneducated, but look at their graduation rates:

Not all blacks were raised without fathers, but look how many are born to single parents. 70% of black kids in 2014 were born to unmarried or single women:

Everything that was negatively said about blacks recently here is demonstrably true. Sorry that facts make you angry.

I would argue that given the Democrats pandering in the face of BLM’s antics, the problems facing blacks are quite pertinent. I’ll stop now, though, since nothing more can really be said.

@Pertho But… But this election is a fucking sham and a giant black eye to democracy. These are the most unworthy candidates to the highest office of the land. The apathy to this election is so real lol.

We managed to derail all the way to Fried chicken in this thread

D…Did you just compare being born black to being a Nazi?

No I compared choosing to join Islam and Choosing to join the SS.

But what do you mean You people?

this thread sucks

Would you like to actually cite real criticisms? Cite data that conflicts what I said?

Explain why black kids have the lowest graduation rate of high school. (aka a poor decision)

If they aren’t graduating high school then realistically what kind of jobs are they going to get? What kind of career are they going to get. (results of the poor decision is a decreased ability to get a good job or career).

Then explain to me why in 1960 the single mother rate for children in black communities was 20%. Currently its riding up to 70%. (A poor decision that seems ever growing)

Explain to me why single black mother poverty rates are so high (results of a poor decision to engage in having a child out of wedlock)

These things feed into each other.

If you don’t have a job, then the only “entertainment” that you can afford is to fuck. Doesn’t cost anything up front. But it’ll cost you for the next 18 years. But does that stop them? No, they keep on fuckin, making more children. With even more children to support on a shitty to non-existent job especially without a man in the picture. They can afford even less shit, and the appeal of the joy of sex is increased.

Now what of the children being raised in this fatherless homes? The victims of the adults poor decisions.
63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (Source: Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978.)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes (Source: Rainbows for all Gods Children.)
70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988)
85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992)

So now because the parents were irresponsible fuck ups, they’ve increased the chances of all this happening to their own kids.

With girls being 75% more likely to become a single mom themselves. And with boys getting thrown in jail or in some capacity become a absentee father. Of course not before fuckin some chick and getting her pregnant before getting arrested and spending the next 5-20 years in prison.

Even if they get out of prison, exactly what jobs are going to be made available for a someone fresh out of prison and no education? Even if they do get a job, most of the money from their paycheck is going right to the mother. Leaving virtually nothing for him to live on. Forcing him to resort to more unsavory means to make ends meet.

And what of the mother with the baby daddy in prison. You think she’s getting child support while he is in prison? Fuck no, he doesn’t have a job in prison. He isn’t making any money, so she has to raise the kid on her own. Becoming more and more dependent on entitlements from the government. But not before crashing well below the poverty line herself since that’s when the entitlements kick in.

These are the results of poor decisions. No white man is forcing young black kids to drop out of school. No white man is forcing young black kids from getting a good job (they did that themselves when they dropped out of high school). No white man is forcing this uneducated jobless/shitty job black kid to fuck his brains out and end up with a bunch of kids they can’t afford.

Face it, poor decisions lead to poor lives. Sadist thing is that they’re not only affecting themselves but their children and given them a huge hurdle to overcome. Which not many do. And those that do tend to get laughed at and called racist names by their black friends. Calling them not real blacks. Like what happened with Dr. Ben Carson, Thomas Sowell or any successful black person that choose to get an education and get a good job and not shoot themselves in the foot by doing stupid shit.

The issues of the black community aren’t summed up to “poor decisions” so posting statistics to back up your extremely weak argument not only justifies the systematic racism that blacks have faced but show bigotry and ignorance in support of that. You are a racist person.

I’m really wasting my breath here. I’m sick of this thread it’s really exposed a few of you for the kinds of despicable people you really are. It’s like you want to convince yourself that all the issues that black people have faced the last 100 years are because they didn’t have enough will to succeed after being freed from slavery.

So. Much. Ignorance. You’re on the internet for christs sakes. Unlimited access to information and you CHOOSE to be ignorant as you claim people choose to be victims. See how that works?

“I have no retort, therefore you’re a racist.”

Will to succeed? Blacks had better social standing and economic success during the years of ACTUAL institutionalised racism. Not as a result of, but in spite of it.

Not all the issues blacks face are their own fault, a perfect example being the white government creating the welfare state, thus continuing the vicious cycle we see today. We already addressed this.

But, to claim that blacks can be excused for their own actions and don’t share any of the blame, is exactly the behaviour that makes everyone else look down on them.

So using facts found on the internet is a weak argument? Using facts and statistics uncovered by the government is weak? Where exactly is your counter argument to this. I mean a real one. A counter study.

Bring up a single current instance of systematic racism. Name me 1 law that is racist in intent. Just 1. Where are these laws that are holding back blacks. Name just one. You can’t, but you keep on reaching for the sky as if systematic racism exists. How can a country lead by an elected black president, democrat controlled cities and states who supposedly have the best intentions of blacks and other minorities at heart. A supreme court with a black representative (1/8 is 12.5% and is about equivalent to the percentage of blacks in the USA today) and is democrat controlled. A democrat controlled senate. That are all supposed to be fixing all this systemic racism that you claim exists. Is America more racists now than it was before the civil rights movement, and if it is then how did that happen. How can all these democrats that apparently have your back. Been passing laws, regulations, creating foundations to raise up black folk and no one else, and you still claim that systemic racism exists…

You are an ass hate for calling someone racist just because they don’t agree with you. You have no proof of my racism. All you can resort to is an empty ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack mind you that that has been thrown around so much by people like yourself that quite honestly it has lost all meaning and all effect. You can’t even name a single piece of racism against me, much less racism laws currently in the books. And laws that would qualify for systemic racism is against whites and those who work hard for the life that they made for themselves.

You are wasting your breath, instead of holding blacks to a higher standard. To make everyone else envious of your accomplishments like Booker T Washington wanted. You wanted to play the victim. Even if you have never been a victim of any actual racism in your entire life. Even if you had never been oppressed in your entire life. It is enough that just because you are black, that you are oppressed.

That is right, I have virtually unlimited access to information and so do you. Only I am immersing myself in facts, you keep on holding fingers in your ears screaming at the top of your lungs because the facts disturb you.

Trump bringing 'em all out in droves. Fear not, my white angels, you have not and can do no wrong! None of you are on government funding! Only darkies are, and only they cause problems, and not at all due to results of the past.

Someone tell my daughter and wife that live with me I’m an absentee father on the way to prison. I’m a killa!