The Ameяican Government Thread

Weld could never get the Libertarian nomination, it almost cost Johnson the nomination and it was a giant mess. LIbertarian party is pretty angry atm.

how did find out about protesting the rally?

did you get paid for it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXk4E_LS33Q

Colbert’s got 1 question for Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxf8-E2v9og

Tim Kaine bout to put MD/VA in the VP seat. Let’s get it!

Aside of the fact, that most of the recent attacks were done by people who had lived in our countries long before the wave arrived, you are correct. But how is this all the fault of these people?
Food for thought: If you go to a different country and the people there (well in our case, you’d have to say “white people”) keep rejecting you, because your hat looks funny, and they are scared, because you call god by a different name, you tend to stick with people who are like you.
Little example? My daughter’s best friend’s dad is from Syria. He came to Germany several years ago. He’s married to a german woman and a neurosurgeon at the local hospital. He speaks the german language better that many of the so called “true germans”. And while he kept his religion, you don’t really notice that. He doesn’t drink alcohol, he doesn’t eat pork and he is pretty strict about the Ramadan. He never tried to pressure his wife into these things, but he doesn’t want his daughter to eat pork, or run around naked in the summer (she’s 5 by the way). You never see him praying. All in all he’s a nice and funny guy and good company.
But despite all of this he is (and will always be) “the arab”. And this shit has gotten worse, since the refugees came. So if not even fully integrated people are being accepted, I wonder what the newcomers might think.

So there is no real surprise that people who keep being rejected, turn towards “their” people. And come to think of it - if we would move to a different country, we definitely would try to find and befriend some fellow germans/americans/whatever. That’s normal. People of the same culture tend to stick together, because they have more things in common. So there’s two reasons, why “subcultures” exist.
Of course there also are a lot of people who come here and don’t even try to integrate into society. Stubborn assholes who after 15 years don’t even speak the language and don’t care about anything - nobody needs these people.
However - the “zones” you mentioned in your post - who is responsible for making sure, that the people there don’t live by their own rules but by ours? That’s what law enforcement exists for. Unfortunately our government (I don’t know about the US) has been way to soft. All the years they’ve been tiptoeing around, making sure that nobody feels uncomfortable. And now we too have zones, the police doesn’t wanna go in, because some gangs from Lebanon or so think, they own these streets. And that’s what I really blame the politicians for. They don’t think straight, they don’t do, what has to be done. They just want everything to be nice, warm and fuzzy. And now the shit starts hitting the fan and they all go “Oh, we gotta do something!” (at least here in Germany). Yeah…you should have started about a decade ago…In the end that’s on our governments. And it’s not that nobody told them. They were being warned plenty. They just didn’t listen, because years back the voters did not really care.

Not if major parts, of what happens there goes back on western influence. Guess, where the Taliban came from. Guess how ISIS was possible. These guys did not fall from the sky. They are a direct or indirect results of western countries, trying to gain influence and protecting their own interests. And that’s not some communist-social-tree-hugger-bullshit. That’s hard facts.

Turkey is an exception in some ways, because currently it is turning into an islamic dictatorship after being a democratic and secular country for many years.
As for your other examples: That’s what happens after a revolution. In case a dictator/king/whatever is being removed from power, chances are, some really fucked up hardliners will take over. Look at the french revolution. Yes, they got rid of the king. But then - for many years - the bloodbath continued. Hundreds of thousands were killed in the wake of the revolution, including Robespierre, who was an initiator of the revolution. If you weren’t 100% straight with the new leaders, it was the guillotine. Look at Russia, look at China or Cambodia - it’s almost always the same. That has nothing to do with Islam.
And yes - Egypt had a democratic election. And boy did those people vote for the wrong guys, didn’t they? I mean, millions of US american citizens are about to hand the steering wheel of the most powerful country in the world to a complete idiot without the slightest bit of a plan and no understanding of politics whatsoever - just to steer things up. But egyptian people voting for the muslim brotherhood in a democratic election - that’s unheard of, isn’t it? How dare they? That’s not, what democracy is for. In a democracy you vote for a guy, who likes western countries, right?

Well, I get the impression that your point of view is, that killing gay people for doing gay things is much worse than torturing and killing people and their families for criticizing the local dictator.
My point is, that a democratic society needs to grow for many years. But in order to grow there must not be a dictator/absolute ruler or anything like that. Thing is, that western countries like these dictators as long as they keep doing business with us. Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya and many other countries being ruled by ruthless dictators or kings is not something we discovered 2 years ago. That’s been the situation for many decades. However as long as the oil kept flowing, we were happy to let those guys do, whatever they wanted. We even gave them a lot of weapons (shame Saddam used those gas grenades on the Kurds) to fight in wars we encouraged them to start (against other rulers in that region, we weren’t so happy with).
So yeah - we helped the dictators to stay where they were (and we still do), as long as they behaved. Now, the people in some countries like Egypt had it and gave these guys a bloody farewell. And I can’t shake the impression that the great western countries who took decades to become democratic societies, now look at these countries and expect democracy to happen over night. Dictator is gone, let’s vote and…WHAT?!? They elected religious guys??? Ah well…Islam is just not democracy-compatible. Never was (true, because up until now these people were ruled by kings and dictators only) and never will be. Fuck 'em…stupid barbarians.

Is it? You might wanna brush up on your reading. There is 10 countries (you might remember, that there is far more than 10 muslim countries) where the official laws include death sentence for gay people. However there is only 4 countries (including Saudi Arabia and Quatar - you know…our buddies), where gay people WILL be executed, doing gay things. So yeah…Muslims being overly fond of killing gay people - more like a myth…
Of course there are fucked up hardliners, including judges following the Sharia instead of the official laws and militia who will kill gay people on sight. But we are still far from “being gay in a muslim land = dead”.

And didn’t say it’s a great achievement. It’s just so, that killing or discriminating gays is not an official line all the citizens of a muslimic country follow happily.

There is no increase in rape. If you pointing at New Years night in Cologne - most of the fuckers there did not come with the recent wave. They had been here for some time. And while they did a lot of touching, as far as I know, no one got raped. It’s still bad enough (even worse, how the authorities and the government handled this). But is was no rape festival. There were incidents for sure, but you still don’t have to wear iron panties around here. German sex offenders still comfortably lead the statistics.
There also is no increase in violence that is connected to the wave. Germany had some fucked up days, but the major part - the shooting in Munich - was done by a german student. The axe-man and the bomber from Ansbach both were refugees but they came here long before the wave arrived. One of the 2 guys in France who killed the priest was long known to the authorities. In fact he was under house arrest and had to wear a tracking device (which he still wore, while decapitating the old man…kinda leaves room for some questions…). So no…not really a part of the wave. Same goes for the Nice driver.
What we do in fact have is a massive increase of incidents like “I don’t wanna be treated by a female doctor” or “I’m not talking to a female <insert profession here>”.

So do we see an increase in violence? Hell yes. But that is not connected to the wave of refugees and immigrants. It’s more like the seed ISIS & Co. have planted on the internet, starts to rise in the local morons who already live here. You have to realize, that the people coming from Iraq or Syria are running away from islamists. The last thing they wanna do, is continuing this shit here. We have our german groups of salafis. They are approaching the refugees, trying to win them for the cause. Most times they’re being told to fuck of. Many of the refugees have converted to Christianity. Many still do. Most do this, because once they have converted, it’s harder to send them back. But the mere fact, that they are doing this, should tell you a lot about how hardcore they are. Being an apostate is probably the worst thing a muslim can do.

Ah yes…the good old “Those are just leeches” argument. Well, if you keep throwing cars, real estate and golden watches after them in the US, you might wanna rethink some parameters of the social welfare system. ^^
In Germany all they get until their request for asylum has been granted (which takes a shitload of time) they get food, clothes and a roof over their head (which most times is a total dump and they have to share it with dozens of other refugees). They don’t get any money at all - often for months. Also they are not allowed to do any kind of work.
IF a request for asylum is being granted, a single grown up gets 325 Euro, a family of 4 about 1000 Euro (all in addition to rent). With this money they can live in Germany but it certainly is not a good life.

My point is - if these people risk their lives (knowing that hundreds have drowned in the Mediterranean Sea) and endure a very long trip over several weeks, walking through half of Europe, leaving everything behind…if they do all this just to get a couple of bucks, so that they won’t starve to death and can put on some decent clothes - well I think there might be a good reason, why they left their countries. You might be all good on the “let them rot” attitude. I’m not. And of course we can’t take them all in. Of course this has to be controlled. But countries, whose citizens each year throw away tons of food, medicine and clothes (just because they are not in style anymore), sure have some resources left.

Well just because someone demands something, doesn’t mean he/she/it will get it. I’m pretty sure, the US will never see the wall to Mexico, Trump is demanding (especially not, if he wants the Mexicans to pay for it). That’s up to our governments. Telling those demanders to go fuck themselves would be a good first step. And up to this point we don’t have any Sharia laws in Germany. Do you have? And I’m pretty confident, that in Germany we will never see any Sharia laws, because the Sharia more or less completely contradicts the german constitution. And that’s a document which won’t be changed so quickly. I don’t even know, what it takes to do that, but before these radicals would reach that goal on a legal way, I’d say they would be better off, taking the country by force…which will never happen. What do we have our Nazi thugs for?
And please…PLEASE don’t say “This population”, when you are talking about a absolute minority. Not in a country, that is currently having a huge “black lives matter” debate. The muslims must neither become the new black people nor the new jews (looking from the german point). If that happens, the real terrorists have reached their goal - starting a war between muslims and christians.

I thought you all had already claimed Biden since he’s from Delaware.

Your false equivalencies are offensive as is your willful ignorance, Rape, murder and genocide are an intrinsic value of Islamic culture and no one is going to apologize for pointing it out.

If Muslims had an acceptable culture and fostered people that anyone wanted to live around there would be no refugees. They don’t, their behavior is so offensive to even those who live amongst them they stack their belongings on their head to go live next to the white euorpeans you complain about and want to draw a false equivalency with.

Muslims are the problem they are fleeing, I see no reason to move that problem next door just so liberals can find a reason to attribute it to white people.

Your multiculturalism fetish is not going to indenture anyone into a obligation of having to explain this to cave people.

Western Culture > Islamic culture. That’s why in western countries you make sure Westerners outnumber foreigners so it stays Western.

Oh my fuck. Politico put out an article using DNC insiders about what was wrong with Wasserman Schultz’s leadership of the party.

This shit is scandalous as fuck.

A snippet:

I don’t understand why the Clinton campaign hired Wasserman Schultz after she resigned, when she infuriated them while she was chair. That just doesn’t make sense to me.

Yeah, but Delaware is like the backpack of DMV. This is true MD/VA in the seat.

As a Virginian, my opinion of Tim Kaine is:
He’s meh. He doesnt turn to and contact the public for opinions but waits for them to come to him. Kind of a polar opposite of Mark Warner, our other much more notable senator. The best thing he ever did was vote against SOPA, but theres next to nothing of note about him outside of that. He rides Richmonds dick pretty hard and pretty good, so I guess theres that.

That’s called quid pro quo, Debbie knows enough and her statements can destroy Clinton so they gave her a job for not doing so.

Personally, I don’t feel we have any obligation to other people and other countries, we need to focus on our own problems. I don’t see why anyone believes we are somehow responsible for the well being of anyone but our own citizens. Add to that the fact that immigration negatively impacts the welfare of our own, and it exacerbates the problem, as not only are we not getting anything out of it, we’re getting hurt by it. Even if you don’t agree with this, it still makes no sense to do what the West is doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

I’m getting real tired of people claiming that by accepting immigrants we’re making the world a better place. Why aren’t these immigrants staying in their own countries and fighting to make it a better place? Why aren’t we helping them do that, rather than absorbing millions of young, healthy men who would benefit their homelands, rather than leech off of ours?

In actual presidential news, supposedly Bernie Sanders is leaving the Democratic party and returning to being an independent after his failed Presidential bid.

Because when you take a self-centered spoiled brats like you find in western civilization due to the abundance we enjoy, and they still have the instinctual need take care of something but don’t have children it manifests it’s self as a pet immigrant fetish, Much like the crazy cat lady who you can’t explain to her that these creatures are shitting all over their house and making it unfit for habitation.

They can’t understand the concept of too many, it’s a mental illness.

Your entire post is rambling bullshit but let me directly address this.



Such a good little citizen you are, believing a government that has every reason to lie to you about the severity of the attacks. And the claim you make that crime is not increasing due to the migrants is also a total lie.

Of course it’s no surprise you have these viewpoints, since anyone openly questioning the impact the migrant crisis is having on Germany will be arrested for hate speech.

I understand that Germany is likely doomed given that you have no democratic recourse due to the government structure imposed on Germany after World War II, but at least be aware of what’s happening to you. If you’d rather close your eyes, ears, and mouth, fine, but don’t act as if doing so is enlightened, when it’s simply suicidal.

Tulsi Gabbard trolling Hillary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGqU7QfwYII

The people who are voting 3rd party are idiots. It doesnt prove a point, an independent wont win. This just gets Donald closer and closer towards being president.

I had to jump ship with the “lesser of two evils” thing, once I stopped being a sheep and did my research on Hillary Clinton I can despite her shortcomings say she is at least qualified for the position and knows politics. You cant take that away from her, and lets not act like she wont have the advisement of the best past and present that the white house has to offer looking over her shoulder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06R-6s3NSRc

Bernie delegate talks about seat fillers being brought in to replace the Bernie supporters.

What exactly are you “disagreeing” with?

Democrats voting for Jill Stein because Hillary is a liar ie: regurgitating the narrative used against her regarding some useless emails and Benghazi which she had no direct correlation with doesnt make you “informed” or “smart” just vote for Trump and get it over with.

The crime bills in the 90s that locked up a lot of minority men for small drug charges that negatively impacted the black family structure in urban neighborhoods under the Bill Clinton administration with Hillarys push is her greatest offense, and yet that keeps getting swept under the rug for a bunch of other nonsense. But lets cut her some slack and say she changed for the greater good or realized how much of a mistake that was in hindsight. Shes shifted on planned parenthood and LGBTQ rights, but what white conservative hasnt within the last 30 years?

All this propaganda to make Hillary just as unfit as Donald Trump is not only hilarious, but its going to ultimately going to be the swing to get him elected because all those unsure voters are going to throw this dead heat in the Republican partys favor. Its getting very stupid…

I’d hardly call Hillary unfit for the job or a “liar” to a higher degree of any other elected official.