The Ameяican Government Thread

Macadoo in 30 seconds by pistol whipping that trash.

He said date, not bang.

Many of those aren’t really his businesses, he doesn’t manage them…he simply attaches his name on them, as a brand.

This republican convention contained a whole lot of repeated false/misleading claims that have been refuted many times already.





People don’t care about facts. It’s about persuasion through emotions aka Game. Do you think religious people care about facts and science when it comes to their bible?

Emil, we’ve been through this before Fact check is far from a neutral source. It was pretty hilarious watching it correct itself after Comey’s press conference, when it had no choice but to acknowledge what fair observers would have known all along.

You’ve made the claim but you provided no support for it. You are just resistant to the evidence because it goes against what you want to hear. Factcheck has no issues calling out ANY politician when their claims are inaccurate.

Yes, neutral sources correct themselves as new evidence comes in, that’s how it should always work.

The common response from conservatives, regardless of whether it’s factcheck, politifact or snopes, is that they are biased because they call out conservatives more than liberals. Did it ever occur to you that it might be because conservatives just happen to be more prone to making false and misleading claims?

Or maybe when the media trys to call Islamic terrorism work place violence repeatedly we stop trusting them. I don’t trust you, I don’t trust the media and the more you talk the more ammo I horde.

AMERICA!

I don’t care about your nuanced bullshit, Trump = Closed border Hillary = Open border. Fuck the syrian refugees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbkS26PX4rc

Trump killed it.

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Was that a convention poll? Winning 73% of dedicated Republicans is kind of bad.

It’s more the fact that it’s showing on CNN.

I see your point.

Does that mean you also believe that black people experience police violence disproportionately because they engage in criminal behaviour disproportionately?

I didn’t say it directly followed that, just that it just happens to be the case. In the end, Factcheck cites all of their information from reputable sources (FBI statistics, polls, whatever). They show all of their work and anyone can trace their sources and verify for themselves. To think you can just dismiss the most reputable factchecking sites with the claim “they’re not neutral” is laughable…it doesn’t work that way bub. You and other conservatives do not get to be exempt from the evidence.

There is a common misconception that factcheckers are not allowed to take sides - they are. I’m sure most factcheckers are against Trump, because the facts of the past repeatedly check out that he is a liar, a bigot, an ignorant, a sexist. However, being for a specific side doesn’t mean you can’t be objective. I’m a big Bernie supporter but I’m disappointed in how he attacks GMO. If he applied the same line of reasoning as he did with climate change, he would have to be pro GMOs…so either he is ignorant of the scientific evidence supporting GMOs, or he has some personal agenda.

Thanks for admitting that they’re biased.

One day, when you’re a big boy and you understand what “framing” means, you’ll also understand that facts never just “speak for themselves”.

Eh…are you slow? Do you really think that neutral factcheckers have no preference? Of course they do. This does not mean they cannot be neutral factcheckers.

Yes. Just like Ginsberg will have all the credibility in the world if she is called to adjudicate on an issue involving Donald Trump.

The fact that say, Jake Tapper is a democrat and probably does not support Trump in any capacity, does not mean he cannot do his job objectively stating the facts.

Sure, and when she shows her work, cites her sources and how she got to her conclusions, then we can judge if she did her job correctly.

I’m going to stop engaging you once again. If you think complex issues filled with ambiguities and normative judgements, and issues that are often defined by the way they are framed, can be distilled into a question of what the “facts” unambiguously say, there’s no point in me responding to you… again.

Anna Kasparian used the terms “bitch” and “fat fuck.” These are hateful slurs and deeply offensive to a number of the population. Fat shaming and misogynistic language–she should apologize, take sensitivity training, and maybe even resign
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