The Ameяican Government Thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cKwEmY-uYI

That’s a small sliver of evidence even when you are aware of the fact it’s fairly well confirmed it was Ted Turner, CNN founder who put it there.

I read & research constantly, I consider a day a failure if I only get through one book.

It’s way to much to get in to in a post and I don’t want to Shinkuma here but I base my beliefs on…

[list]
[] Historical precedent of how the ruling class treats the proles and specific incidents of disclosure/exposure.
[
] Dystopia fiction, and confirmations in society.
[] U.N reports that clearly state that our population trajectory is not sustainable.
[
] Countless memoirs and statements of the 1% clearly stating their disdain of the public and intentions of genocide.
[] Military actions, Laws and legislation coinciding with stated intentions and goals.
[
] Think tank white papers
[/list]

All these things are present.

Then when you have an in depth understanding of their intentions, affiliations, associations & assets the media provides a near constant (admittedly) confirmations bias.

People like to throw around the proverbial they I can write dossier chart like it was the Mafia.

I digress, I am way passed the point of trying to convince anyone my food and ammo hordes are well stocked and beyond the point of giving a shit.

But if your really interested start with Smedley Butler and the Business plot.

Major. Gen Butler was the highest ranking member of the armed forces,received 16 medals, five for heroism one of 19 men to receive the Medal of Honor twice, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal and the Medal of Honor, and the only Marine to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions.

And over night became a member of the tin-foil brigade when he come forth to congress and accused to the top 5 corporations in the country of contacting him to lead a coup against Roosevelt and despite a record such as his no investigation was conducted.

So if Old Gimlet Eye can be branded with the shiny hat of shame I’ll wear mine with pride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMEI8bnbw1o

The earth is a lifeboat, it has a leak and they will kick you off.

https://youtu.be/WXr58RrfYZs

Looks like part 2 is coming soon

they getting desperate, just saw on my newsfeed the video where they mock trump followers. “Tipping point” lmao they are damn right but not the way they think

Last I checked, the MCU Avengers were government sanctioned.

Why would I, if I were American, listen to them?

Trump would beat Clinton by trillions when it comes to driving up debt

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Not credible.

CNN is her eigth largest contributor, you know when they aren’t editing her drugged out comments to make her look better after she says don’t call the bombing in Chelsea a bombing.

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http://poorrichardsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Screen-Shot-2015-10-14-at-9.28.29-PM-888x770.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96lAHygeIU

The article is just reporting the CRFB’s findings.

The CRFB’s whole gig is centered on deficit reduction, and they are usually doing it by lobbying for cutting entitlement spending, which I would think would be right up your ally. Here’s the source, seeing how a little CNN branding gets your hackles up. You should probably go read in on their website though because I’m not taking the time to edit their graphs and tables into this post. (Actually, read the TLDR conclusion quote anyway- the source report is huge and will still be there if you want to digest it afterwards.)

TLDR-

Promises and Price Tags: A Preliminary Update

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I don’t support cuts of any current entitlements except Obamacare the others are fairly settled and enshrined, I oppose new ones and want expansive opt-outs. I acknowledge my harsh rhetoric but I am a lot more concerned about the welfare going to wallstreet than I am low income neighborhoods.

Paraphrased, Establishment insiders. Eric Schmidts involved too… everyone knows where he stands.

Ad hominem. Don’t tell me what you think of them, show me where their numbers are wrong.

And yeah, given the complexity that’s a lot to ask, but they are hardly the only source showing a huge federal debt increase under Trump’s plan either. Do you have what you would consider a credible source showing a deficit reduction under Trump’s current plan? Or at least that it is competitive with Clinton’s on a debt basis?

Ad hominem admitted. I always look at who they are and what they are selling before I evaluate what they said. I trust no one who can’t articulate in one concise sentence what they do or what they make.

But I did look it over, there basing this long detailed report on Trumps one page bullet points on proposed tax brackets. Way to narrow of a scope to make these declarations and based on the assumption spending remains the same.

Not sure where you are getting that from. Way more than tax bracket bullet points. Are you reading the same report? They’re basing it on the policy proposals listed here (particularly summarized in figure 8):

http://crfb.org/sites/default/files/CRFB_Promises_and_Price_Tags.pdf#12

…as updated with the following information.

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@Reticently
Here are my annotations for the article as I read it:
-That national debt is crazy, but is it possible for economic growth to offset that? But isn’t too much economic growth bad. Donald Trump looks like he loses here. 11:00

  • Jimbo while still a complete madman does have a valid point. They say Hilary Clinton is going to obtain this money from the wealthy to offset the costs of her proposals. But isn’t she in the pockets of the people she wants to increase taxes on. Idk about that. It is so far a fault I see in the article but it’s supposed to be empirical as possible. Conjecture takes away credibility so I can understand. 11:12
  • Forcing even more federal regulations on small businesses is bad imo. Even by simplifying tax codes, there is even less incentive to start a small business if I have to absorb these new costs. 11:16
    -Man it sure seems scary to be any type of business under the Hillary economy. 11:18
  • My family is poor, so no need to care about taxes on estates. Sucks to suck if your family members are millionaires. Hold dat son! 11:21 One for Hillary.
    -For business minded people, reforming some tax laws in Trump fashion sounds great. So far though he wants to be Hillary and Trump fiscally although I think him saying the other stuff is his typical one upsmanship. But all politicians are like this. “I’m super man, well I’m superman times infinity” 11:28 This election sucks.
    -Why is all of this nondefense spending? Both of these candidates are both conservative warhawks. Where is the moderate voice at? 11:31
    -Yep as predicted, without aggressive budget cuts, Trump’s plan doesnt work. You can’t help the poor, middle class and rich and make everyone happy. Compromise causes anger. Pick a group to focus on. I’m sure some of the very liberal economic points were one upsmanship to steal some swing voters. But he probably genuinely believes that. 11:42

Conclusion: In the face of economic stagnation I don’t know what to think. Maybe Trump will make things much worse or much better, but the key to stagnation is keeping things status quo. So out of the major candidates, probably voting Trump(unfortunately) or a third party so you guys can’t say I ruined your lives.

Btw those numbers are just time stamps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1hNiiVaITQ

She’s throwing another tantrum. I’m reminded of a Christopher Hitchens quote that I’ve posted before: The case against Hillary Clinton for president is open-and-shut. Of course, against all these considerations you might prefer the newly fashionable and more media-weighty notion that if you don’t show her enough appreciation, and after all she’s done for us, she may cry.

I’ve read European news reports that stated America would need an economic growth rate of about 20% for Trump’s current proposals to offset the debt. That… probably isn’t happening, to put it mildly.

https://youtu.be/xrkPe-9rM1Q

Funny or Die has an entire movie on Netlfix discrediting Trump.

I saw this in top comment in that video

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton walk into a bar, sit down and order some drinks…

Donald leans over, and with a big smile on his face, says to Hillary, "The media is really tearing you apart for that scandal."
Hillary: "You mean me lying about Benghazi?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "You mean the massive voter fraud?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Using my secret private server with classified material to hide my activities?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, and taking bribes from foreign countries like Saudi Arabia in exchange for weapons contracts?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Hiring Al Qaeda operative Abdurahman Alamoudi in my husbands administration?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and helping them commit crimes against humanity?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "The funding of neo Nazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and the biggest crisis that the country has had since WWII ?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "Turning Libya into a failed state after arming and training Islamic fundamentalists to overthrow Gadaffi?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "Being the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "Supporting the murderous Zionist regime and with it the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villagest?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the “moderate” terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, which was exposed pulitzer prize winner Seymour Hersh and had it not been for the push back from alternative media and the online community, we would have put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya??
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "The creation of the biggest refugee crisis since WWII?"
Trump: “No the other one:”

Hillary: "Leaving Iraq in chaos?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "The DOJ spying on the press?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese elites bought it?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet?"
Trump: “No, the other one.”

Hillary: "I give up! … Oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left Office?"
Trump: “THAT’S IT! I almost forgot about that one”.

Can people just vote in Gary Johnson?