see that’s a different issue. The issue she’s pushing is nonsense and is absolute horseshit. If the issue was immunity law and the absurd kangaroo courts, there’d be an issue. But people aren’t complaining about that, they are complaining about how vaccines lead to autism etc.
igonring the last part of the full article (it turns into a hillary clinton dick riding piece), this article is at least right in that stein would push the envelope and abuse executive orders to get what wants. Fuck that
secondly, she’s an idiot with a very poor understanding of science. She wants to switch to renewables using alternative energy, but she wants to shut down all nuclear power plants and eliminate oil. What a fucking moron, wind and solar cannot match the energy density of oil short of bankrupting the United States. Her policy would force all Americans barring the top 5% from taking a massive hit on our standard of living. Not only that, but industry runs on oil. From mechanical pumps, small 2 stroke motors, construction machines, planes, trains. All of it runs on oil and killing oil would mean all industrial capacity would essentially grind to a halt. how can anybody trust an idiot like that is beyond me. Stop pretending like stein or johnson are viable or good candidates.
Stein’s entire environmental and energy agenda is tailored to and built around a 200 level college course called energy and the environment that’s used to teach non STEM majors a little bit about where their energy comes from and what are other possibilities while leaving out all the complicated engineering details.
Our cancer/autism/health in modern society is in out of control decline and people are trying to limit their exposure to various shit, 99% of them will admit they cannot pinpoint what the problem is.
Look at these rates versus the Amish for example, there not getting a lot of this shit, modern society is being poisoned.
I’m not a luddite, but being cautious of wifi, vaccines, of life in general is not worthy of ridicule, let alone government mandate.
These same arguments were used against Tinfoilers complaining about BPA’s… you know until they found out it was toxic.
We live in a country that used to sell radioactive foot x-rays for home use to get a good shoe fit less than 50 years ago.
Geez, that really is something. I don’t know if the rabbit hole runs that deep, but we are talking about the Clintons here. A plan of this scale actually explains a number of things:
-Her only real primary opponents were Sanders and O’Malley (debatable). No other party insiders ran because the Democratic party wanted to ensure Hillary was elected.
-The media gave Trump so much screen time at the Democrats’ request to legitimize him and give Hillary a beatable opponent.
-Blandy was selected as her running mate so people wouldn’t be upset if Obama got a third term after all
this is true, those rates are going up but most of those things are readily explainable
modern society isn’t without its drawbacks and its definitely not free. Nothing is free. Where in luddite society you wouldn’t live to the age of 60 or 70 without being useless, you wouldn’t see high rates of cancer, heart failure, or other disease like parkison and alzhemiers, etc. And even if people where being affected by them, the lack of screening technology would make it seem like “natural” causes
In modern society you can easily live to be 70 and still be functioning. However as you age, you are more prone to those diseases, and modern society by its fundamental nature is toxic. The massive consumption of fossil fuels and our industrialization has resulted in massive pollution, this is a fact.
before unleaded gasoline, industrialized nations dumped an insane amount of lead into the air. This will cause cancer over the long term. The incomplete combustion of hydrocarbons release pollutants that are toxic and cancerous. Even with modern catalytic converter technology, you still have a good amount of hydrocarbon pollution as well as smog in the air. Southern California air will kill you, being in southern California is estimated to knock off 5-7 years from your life expectancy, and that’s just air pollution. That air pollution has also been linked to increase asthma rates in babies in the womb, yet the irony is that the lack of exposure in toddlers leads to allergies as they grow.
autism rates are a non issue becasue i’m in the camp that we simply are getting better at catching it and have way more children born with it thanks to exponential population growth it now seems like an issue. Its equivocal to how media makes it seem like there’s more crime and violence today than in the 60-70’s yet that’s not true. INcreased interconnective and communiction speeds make seems thing more prevelant than they are.
easy access to refined carbs, and sugars, as well as our diet being primary refined sugars and meat is going to lead to severe health problems as we age. It doesn’t help that red meat when overcooked is cancerous. And its not just the consumption of meat, its the over consumption of meat coupled with our sedentary lifestyle and easy access to sugar. There was a french study i read a while back that the simple act of standing an hour for every 5-6 hours reduced your risk of heart disease.
we live in homes that are still infested with lead, that will cause cancer and raise the rates of cancer. our fish is infested with mercury and that will lead to complications in the future. WE have wireless telephones next to our reproductive organs for the majority of the day.
Modern existence is littered with things that will fuck you up over the long term, there’s nothing natural about our society. Shit, iirc there was case somewhere in LA where kids living near powerlines had incrased rates of cancer, turns out those really big powerlines emit enough radiation to cause cancer. Why is wifi and issue, but not power lines? Its lazyness
I get that people want to reduce “exposure” but people go about it at the most ridiculous and nonsensical ways. It seems to me that people complain about these sensationalized “issues” that have been overhyped by social media, yet are completely oblivious to actual issues that have been hurting us for a while and will continue to for several generations and it will negatively impact us. If people want to be weary and careful, than by all means go for it, but if there are going to be claims and movements made against particular things, and based on faulty science or inconsistent logic founded on ignorance…that shit needs to go.
the facts are, as science grows, and issues are linked to problems, there will always be adjustments. like your xray foot machine, they used to sell watches with radioactive uranium to make them glow in the dark. Some people have concerns and make adjustments or avoid it as best as possible. Others raise a rukus, but all i aks for is that if youre going to raise awarness, back it by good arguments, not poorly built ones becuase then you create a movement based on horseshit that gets in the way.
Like the anti - vaccine bullslhit, thanks to morons in orange county, there was an outbreak of a disease that had been essentially eliminated.
Many people on different forums are calling this gg for Hillary and the DNC. They are saying regular people will be hesitant on voting in a corpse. I’ll admit between this and a #basketofdeplorables, it really has not been a good week for her. She already cancelled going to California, which I guess won’t matter. I’m eager to see what the polling will look like in a week.
Hillary is still safe. It’s just pneumonia, she is perfectly fine. Nothing to see here. Rightwing nutjobs are making stuff up. It’s not a serious issue. It a minor thing like the allergies that have been acting up for eight years straight. https://youtu.be/W5B4TEh5pm0
Not much without digging, this is all first hand I gathered as I work there during the Summer, partly anecdotal that any local will tell you. Wife works for the state water agency, before the oil boom people used to have to truck water, unless they were one of the lucky people with a well which usually cannot be softened.
Here’s an overview of the current water project, it wont even be done until 2038 most people are still waiting to have a water line.
It’s a public/private partnership, it’s real simple how it’s paid for. They sell the Fracking water to the oil companies at a mark-up, which pays for the infrastructure for the people who live here.
I listened to ads on the radio all day from water well drilling/filter companies, the tag line is “Have you been told your water can’t be cleaned? Let us do a test and we will let you know if we can help you”.
You can SEE the oil beads in the water and it was that way before Fracking started, at least what I am told by any of the 100+ farmers I personally know who have lived there their entire life.
FYI the Amish do get cancer and partake of modern medicine- where I work we have Amish patients on cancer drug trials as I type this.
A big part of why cancer rates are higher than they had been historically is that we are living long enough to get and die of cancer. What I mean by this is that we are generally not dying early in significant numbers due to infectious disease, injury, starvation, or exposure.
Even in the third world the leading causes of death are now chronic diseases- cancer, heart disease, etc. Because they are living long enough for those to be their big health problems. This isn’t a failure, it is a fucking triumph. LMAO at the idea our health is in out of control decline.
The “delusional” mistake you are making is called confirmation bias. Remember, if you look at enough baseless claims, some of them are going to be correct by chance. And lol and lumping Galileo in with anti-vaxxers and the like. Galileo had rigorously obtained data that was verifiable with a repeatable methodology he was happy to share.
I am not grouping Galileo with Anti-vaxxers, I am grouping the Infallible Catholic establishment that persecuted him with the Infallible modern scientific/medical establishment that tells us anything that can’t be patented cannot be efficacious, Marijuana will kill you, Cigarettes are safe and Ginseng and anything holistic is snake oil.
I’m sure the AMA is so much better now than just 50 short years ago when they were selling cigarettes.
[details=Spoiler]The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) published its first cigarette advertisement in 1933, stating that it had done so only “after careful consideration of the extent to which cigarettes were used by physicians in practice.” These advertisements continued for 20 years. The same year, Chesterfield began running ads in the New York State Journal of Medicine, with the claim that its cigarettes were “Just as pure as the water you drink… and practically untouched by human hands.”
In medical journals and in the popular media, one of the most infamous cigarette advertising slogans was associated with the Camel brand: “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.” The campaign began in 1946 and ran for eight years in magazines and on the radio. The ads included this message:
“Family physicians, surgeons, diagnosticians, nose and throat specialists, doctors in every branch of medicine… a total of 113,597 doctors… were asked the question: ‘What cigarette do you smoke?’ And more of them named Camel as their smoke than any other cigarette! Three independent research groups found this to be a fact. You see, doctors too smoke for pleasure. That full Camel flavor is just as appealing to a doctor’s taste as to yours… that marvelous Camel mildness means just as much to his throat as to yours.”[/details]
Hillary is going to get steamrolled at the debate.
She, literally it seems, has no leg to stand on.
They can load it with all the CNN personal they want, it won’t stop Trump.
Trump made Cruz, an excellent public speaker and a very skilled debater, look foolish. He’s going to annihilate Clinton, who would probably lose a debate to Haramabe the Gorilla.
You are moving goal posts. You literally equated Galileo with crazy people for the apparent purpose of implying that because he was correct the claims of the “tin foil hat crowd” were just as likely to be correct. Now if what you actually want is to argue that capitalism injects an inertial bias in scientific organizations, that’s a much more defensible position. But there is a world of difference between coming at the establishment with conflicting data versus merely extraordinary claims.
Did you read the article you linked on Amish cancer rates? Most of the differences were in cancers linked to tobacco, alcohol, sexual promiscuity, and sun exposure (even though they are outside a great deal the Amish cover up against the sun very well with their wardrobe). So… no big surprises really.
The link to the wikipedia article on the Amish and autism is more criticism of the original claim than it is support, and honestly the criticism seems pretty valid.
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[] Couldn’t find where in science it says anything that can’t be patented can’t be effective- who holds the patent on regular exercise for example?
[] Also couldn’t find a published LD50 on marijuana (kind of surprised by that actually).
[] Smoking being good for you is something that went out once we got enough data showing otherwise, despite the enormous opposition put up by private industry.
[] Not sure what you are treating with Ginseng, but there actually are plenty of papers published stating it has beneficial effects (some of those papers are totally “why would you even do that?” stuff- check this out: Gold nanoparticles synthesized using Panax ginseng leaves suppress inflammatory - mediators production via blockade of NF-κB activation in macrophages).
[*] “Anything holistic” is a little vague to tackle.
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There is nothing crazy about the inherent distrust of institutionalized establishment, that reputation is earned and only an idiot think they wont kill you for fun and profit.
The earth is flat, eating a pound of human flesh will cure anything, we will out-eat our ability to produce food by 1900, cigarettes are safe, they are usually wrong just about everything.
The scientific establishment was at the peak in Nazi-germany… they gave us the Nuclear bomb and Eugenics. It has nothing to do with capitalism, it has to do with having a god complex.
And it’s not about right or wrong, it’s about mandate vs voluntary. The only people obsessed with this is those trying to impose their version of the truth on others.
The Mandatory vaccine crowd are of the same mentality as catholics trying to root out heretics, convinced they are right and willing to use violence against those whom are wrong.
