The Amaterasu combo thread

toma101 · March 28, 2011, 7:39am

Jetm:

The damage between most of the more advance weapon switch combos is pretty negligible.

I would personally go with:

Reflector Starter:
M H 214L M H 214L M H 6H(x5) S j.MHHHS 22M j.3H j.236S j.236XX

Easy to do and should do about 630K with one hyper, and about 740K with two.

Reflector Starter w/ 1 Normal Assist and 1 OTG assist:
M H 6H(x5) P1 6H(x5) S j.MMHHH j.236H j.H land S j.MHHHS P2 22M j.236S j.236XX

For this combo, I personally use Tron’s Gustaff flame and Dante’s Crystal OTG. This combo gets you about the same as the above combo, but the higher execution barrier brings with it a lot more meter gain. This combo should get you roughly two meter by itself, making it great for a Phoenix team (if I’m correct in assuming Phoenix’s fireball acts as a Normal hit type move). Despite the positioning of the Partner calls in the combo, it varies depending on the speed of the assist used. For Dante, he must be called at the third 3rd 6H if done as fast as possible. Tron must be called at the 4th.

Glaive starter:
M H 2H 236L L M H 236L M S j.MMS j.3H j.236S j.236XX

Short, sweet, and to-the-point. If you don’t start with a M, you need to amend the start to L/2L M 2H.

Instant Overhead Glaive Starter:
j.L j.3H j.236S M H 2H 236S M S j.MMS j.3H j.236S j.236XX

Not as much damage as a M starter, but when you’ve got mix-ups like Ammy, you gotta take what you can get. And you’ll be getting it a lot. Do the j.L as soon as you leave the ground.

Bead Starter:
If you’re trying to combo with Beads, you’re most likely doing something very wrong.

I prefer to work with the Glaive more than the reflector. Easier instant overhead/low and confirmation into combo, great range, easy crossups, and shorter combos for the same damage as long reflector ones. Beads are useful against big, slow characters like Thor, Hulk, and Sentinel, and that’s really only because of Ammy’s excellent Cold Star special. Just… try not to miss with it.

thanks a ton lol sorry but its kind of hard to understand with the number notations u have. if u can tell me what the stand for it will be much easier

Jetm · March 28, 2011, 7:51am

Reflector Starter:
s.M s.H qcb.L s.M s.H qcb.L s.M s.H f.H(x5) s.S j.MHHHS dd.M jdf.H jqcf.S jqcf.XX

Reflector Starter w/ 1 Normal Assist and 1 OTG assist:
s.M s.H f.H(x5) P1 f.H(x5) s.S j.MMHHH jqcf.H j.H land s.S j.MHHHS P2 dd.M jqcf.S jqcf.XX

Glaive starter:
s.M s.H c.H qcf.L s.L s.M s.H qcf.L s.M s.S j.MMS jdf.H jqcf.S jqcf.XX

Instant Overhead Glaive Starter:
j.L jdf.H jqcf.S s.M s.H c.H qcf.L s.M s.S j.MMS jdf.H jqcf.S jqcf.XX

Jon_Slayton · March 28, 2011, 7:14pm

For that one if you use j.236C instead of j.236S, you can get a bit more damage, I think j.236S has a lot of scaling on it or something. But, on block, j.236C is really really bad.

Cool to see someone else using the same combos as me though, most of those you listed are the BNBs I’ve come up with, can’t find anything else yet that does more damage. Just need to find a good Rosary BNB now if you get a random rosary hit (like j.C).

toma101 · March 28, 2011, 9:15pm

ahhh thanks dude help alot

sage2050 · March 28, 2011, 9:41pm

first of all, j.qcf+H does less damage than qcf+S
secondly it gives you a ground bounce which makes it so you can’t finish the combo

_reload · March 29, 2011, 1:55am

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sage2050 · March 31, 2011, 5:59am

good combo, i’m using this as my bnb now but cutting out the fake exchange

MoFro · March 31, 2011, 7:00pm

You’re mostly right but you have to link a st.L after the first qcf.L or it will drop.

Jetm · March 31, 2011, 8:26pm

Depends, actually. If the first st.M is done from a little out of point blank range, you can link the st.M after the qcf.L. It’s entirely spacing dependent (except on Sent, I think, but I could be wrong). The idea is you hit the opponent with qcf.L at the end of it’s active frames, meaning you recover sooner compared to the opponent.

Also the exact combo he’s doing is:

st.M st.H f.HH dd.M st.M c.H qcf.L st.L st.M qcf.L st. L st.M st.S j.MMS jdf.H jqcf.S j.qcfXX

Doesn’t seem optimal since he could add a standing H before the c.H and after the third st.M. You’d lose the st.L and st.M before the launch, but the tradeoff for two H’s is worth it.

drowsy22 · April 3, 2011, 12:47am

Should we start a new combo thread if the OP doesn’t want to manage it anymore?

Are you alive OP?

TheGreatGiroux · April 4, 2011, 2:04am

Yes please, someone make a new combo thread.
I’m new to ammy and this one is just a pain in the ass…

MisoSowee · April 5, 2011, 8:23am

For any fellow ammy/dorm users (although I can imagine it’d work with a myriad of assists, probably jam session, chun li legs, anything with lots of hits)

- :h: - f.:h: x 4 - or :l: paper* - 2:m: - :h: - f.:h: x 5 - :s: - :h: - :h: - 236:h: - - :s: - :h::h::h::s: - dark hole or whatever assist - :f::f: - glaive switch - 3:h: - 236:s: - okami super - (dhc into either dorm super >:D)

*depends on character, crouch, some characters don’t work in corner.

does about 630k, and will kill dem 800k pixies if you dhc into dorm ball of fire w/ purification chip
If you’re in the corner neutral jump after the second launch. If not dark hole goes behind them :[
Builds 1 4/5 meters

d100Productions · April 5, 2011, 9:56pm

Ok. I’m trying to do (j.:df::h:, j.:qcf::s:, :qcf::atk::atk:)x2 after I’ve grounded my opponent. But… well. Obviously I’m having trouble with it -_-; namely getting the j.:qcf::s: to connect a second time so I can do another :qcf::atk::atk:. I know it can be done, I’ve been watching the James Chen vs Justus match from Wednesday Night Fights 2.2 and trying to do exactly what he does against Arthur (minus the string, I’m just working on getting it off of the ground for now). Can anyone offer any help on this or tips? I’d really like to be able to get this combo down if possible.

EDIT: NM, I got it. Seems that the big problem was me doing the j.:df::h: from too high up. Apparently the sweet spot is when she’s barely above the ground. Going to be hard to get that down… but compared to me getting Maggys flight loops just for starters >_> tch. Cake.

toma101 · April 6, 2011, 12:39am

ok can someone plz update the ammy op when they get a chance. it will really help alot

orochizoolander · April 6, 2011, 11:35am

I’ll update it by Friday. If people aren’t happy with the thread feel free to close this one and start a new one.

rabbitreaper17 · April 6, 2011, 10:43pm

Good Stuff!!! Im Going Try These Combos Out!:rock:

ElvenShadow · April 7, 2011, 1:35pm

hey so um… i have a serious question

everyone seems to do the reflector switch to glaive combo in order to end the combo in a super. this combo is fairly difficult because of the switch

when i am in glaive, i use this combo instead… (there are 2 versions, both do about the same damage and work anywhere on screen)

j:h:-:l:--c.:h:-:s:-j.-j:m:-j:h:-j:h:-:qcf::h:(land)-:s:-:qcf:okami shuffle

or you can do

j:h:-:l:--:h:-:f::h:x5-:s:-j.-j:h:-:qcf::h:(land)-:s:-:qcf:okami shuffle

of course you can also omit the first hit if you want to start the combo from a grounded attack

also you can get the extra j. and j:h: on the bottom version too, its all just a matter of timing the hits apart. as long as ammy is positioned the right way above their hitbox so that the :qcf::h: doesnt whiff it should work anywhere on anyone. you sorta just have to eyeball it, but it most cases its not really that necessary.

both end in knockdown and do about the same damage as the galive switch combo so aside from the fact that with the glaive switch combo you can tag on an extra super for a little extra if you have the meter, what am i missing that would make sense to use the switch combo over the ones i just posted?

DrewGrimey · April 7, 2011, 2:29pm

ElvenShadow:

hey so um… i have a serious question

everyone seems to do the reflector switch to glaive combo in order to end the combo in a super. this combo is fairly difficult because of the switch

when i am in glaive, i use this combo instead… (there are 2 versions, both do about the same damage and work anywhere on screen)

j:h:-:l:--c.:h:-:s:-j.-j:m:-j:h:-j:h:-:qcf::h:(land)-:s:-:qcf:okami shuffle

or you can do

j:h:-:l:--:h:-:f::h:x5-:s:-j.-j:h:-:qcf::h:(land)-:s:-:qcf:okami shuffle

of course you can also omit the first hit if you want to start the combo from a grounded attack

also you can get the extra j. and j:h on the bottom version too, its all just a matter of timing the hits apart. as long as ammy is positioned the right way above their hitbox so that the :qcf::h: doesnt whiff it should work anywhere on anyone. you sorta just have to eyeball it, but it most cases its not really that necessary.

both end in knockdown and do about the same damage as the galive switch combo so aside from the fact that with the glaive switch combo you can tag on an extra super for a little extra if you have the meter, what am i missing that would make sense to use the switch combo over the ones i just posted?

the main advantage is adding the extra supers in the corner with the glaive, other than that there’s no real difference.

ElvenShadow · April 7, 2011, 2:35pm

oh i see. so say, i if you had another character that you could just dhc into that caused about the same amount of damage and allowed you to tag back ammy in safely after it was over, wouldnt that pretty much be the same too?

Adelheid · April 7, 2011, 5:15pm

Nah, 'cause then you could be using the weapon switch combos that do a higher 1-stock damage but don’t have a loopable ending and doing your DHC off of that. That would do significantly more than if you just went for a reflector only combo. Weapon switch stuff is very much worth learning how to do.

Also this reminded me that I had been meaning to record this for awhile, so I did

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