The allies and enemies of the Phoenix Force- Phoenix Team Building and Matchup thread(UPDATE!)

I was watching some Alioune and he definitely seems to like the bring-her-out-at-5 method. And then F-Champ seems to like the wait-till-she’s-alone method. Seems like the debate rages on! lol Everything about how I play says to bring her out asap, and that’s def how I played er in vanilla. BUT, there’s really something to be said for avoiding the incoming mixup entirely. lol

I know there seems to be a lot of anti Phx tech out there, but can anyone address some of the more common ones and how to be prepared for em? Doesnt need to be comprehensive as I don’t really face a whole lot of Spiderman. lol But any basic shit to know that might avoid free deaths that might be avoidable?

Again, not askin for a 9 page survival guide as Im sure its very nuanced, but maybe a tip or 2 along the lines of, “save your XF if an opponent runs anchor Arthur” (thats an arbitrary example, not Phoenix-specific).

I’m willing to be outsmarted, but if I can avoid the easily-avoidable, might be good to have a head start in that regard. Also if this info exists elsewhere, please feel free to point rather than re-type. :slight_smile:

My best strat is to never pop xfactor first vs. other anchors. Pop it for a mistake.
Don’t spam c.L mindlessly.
Always use a normal before a special so that the feathers cover the startup.
always use tk overdrive H as dark phoenix in xfactor because everyone always forgets its a frame trap.
Tk Overdrive from full screen is a frame trap, but can be punished from anywhere closer. Tk L cannot and is a frame trap.
Make your opponent pop xfactor from fear then go ham!

Other than being outplayed I typically never lose with Phoenix/DP

Fantastic advice, thanks!

Wait wait, to clarify: you said DONT spam cL mindlessly???

(jokes)

What do you guys think of Jean/Vergil/Ammy thinking about playing this team for reals. I’ve tried so many point characters. Can’t seem to find the right one. Hope it’s Jean.

Point Phoenix is suicide. if it were me I’d go with Vergil(Rapid Slash)/Ammy(bloom)/Phoenix(TK Shot)

what do you guys think about skrull/doom/phoenix? I’m still pretty new to the game and I really want to play phoenix but dont want to build a team that only revolves around her. I’m thinking skrull isnt the most meter dependant character so that could be good. That being said I dont have doom TAC infinites down yet. How important is it for phoenix to learn Doom TAC’s?

It’s pretty important, you need at least ONE battery character. There position would be best at 2nd but you could also have a point battery. Or have both a point battery and assist battery such as Magneto/Doom. Infinites are important with Phoenix, they get the needed meter and also get a kill without the use of it. The alternative is to have a reset heavy shell, but it’s not as reliable. It’s best to use both TACs and resets in Phoenix’s game plan. Good second characters are: Doom/Magneto/Trish/Morrigan/Storm/Modok basically any character with a tac infinite and a decent assist.

What do people think of Dormammu/Dante/Phoenix? Been trying out teams. Don’t really want to run Doom, or learn Magneto (though I was considering Mags/Dante/Phoenix or Dante/Magneto/Phoenix).

Dante/Dorm/Phoenix seems like a better choice since Dorm is a legit support character now with that new TAC infinite, look it up on Youtube if you don’t know what I’m talking about. Search “UMVC3 Dormammu TAC infinite Lintlikr”

Has anyone ever messed around with Phoenix/strider? I know two extremely low health characters. I’m just curious about her ability to convert from vajra. Her teleport and ability to otg should net decent meter build and damage.