I know that, but it’s just that I’ve never seen all that many other people pick her aside from me anywhere I found competition (and for as popular as she’s considered to be, she didn’t seem all that common a choice among players until XI).
Of course you haven’t seen it as much. Kula is at her strongest in XI and is a top tier stupidly strong character. And you know people always go for the stupidly strong top tier characters. Why did players pick Kyo/Iori/O.Chris/O.Yash/Daimon in 98? Why did everyone pick up Krauser? Because they all are strong as hell. If anyone is more powerful than Kula they wouldnot pick her simple as that.
People tier whore the fuck out of KOF. Always did and always will. Why would you see Kula popular anywhere else if she’s not a stupid overpowered character?
All true. Still, it doesn’t make it any less annoying (though I’m one to talk when considering who I play in XI). As it is, I don’t care how good a character is if I don’t like them. As long as they’re not trash (Whip after '02) or boring (Gato), I go with them if they fit my style.
Um, people tier whore EVERY game. It’s not the players’ fault that SNK makes unbalanced games.
I know that. But this is the KOFXII thread not a FG general thread. That’s why I listed KOF and not I dunno… every other FG out there.
shrug ok
Said it before, but the team-based nature of KOF seems to inevitably lead to more tier-whoring. That or they just don’t playtest their games enough.
Is CvS2 any more tierwhored then 3s? Tierwhoring occurs when a game isn’t balanced, team or no team.
Look at UM. Yeah, everyone plays Krauser cause he’s that good, but once you get past him, you can see almost anyone pop up. It’s a small shame that SNK didn’t make Krauser weaker (but at least he’s more beatable then the best character in many other fighters).
You can’t blame people for tierwhoring in tournies. You’re trying to win money after all.
YEAH, you’re right in that a lot of SNK shit is imbalanced. Outside of AM2, who really balances their shit that well though?
yeah but CvS2 sucks
Moe?
But getting back to the topic of KOF XII, there are supposed to be about 20 characters in this game, with roughly 16 already shown or rumored, who else do you all think might make it into this game?
I’m willing to bet money on two of them being Mai and Clark.
Absolutely true. Team games can help and hurt balance since they basically let you partially neutralize the threat of counter-character. With games where team order must be pre-determined, you can still use countering somewhat. As I said before, XI is a bit worse because of the active tagging system.
But again, usually it’s more because SNK is unable to balance their casts. Hopefully XII won’t follow this pattern.
I don’t think SNK is any worse at char balance then Capcom, though that’s not saying a whole lot for either.
That said, quite honestly, I think XII’s balance is going to be a crapshoot. I have doubts it will end up well.
Right, I just played a few rounds of XI, '97, '95, '02 and '98: UM, and I see what you mean, though I do not find the difference that distinct. Some of the AOF-like hit sound effects seem to have been removes from XI, which waters down the “crunchy” feel of, for instance, many ranbus.
Of course, the tag play almost inevitably grants a more “rushed” feeling to KOs (except the final one.)
A few of the moves introduced in '03/'XI lack any feeling of connection (besides the Silent Slash and Buster Wolf, Oswald’s rush DM, Ash’s multi-flash kick and even Shen Woo’s DMs do resemble SvC/NGBC in this regard.)
However, other new moves, like Athena’s/Maxima’s/Elisabeth’s LDMs, Kensou’s updated qcfx2+P Hermit Blast DM and anything Gai does, are satisfying enough to land. Others (mainly Malin’s aerial qcfx2+P and Clark’s LDM) were actually “downgraded” from '03 to XI. shrug
Elizabeth is in for sure…but I’d hope to see Mai and Clark. Ralf just aint the same without Clark. :shake:
It aint never gonna happen but I want Angel back.
16 for sure. at least 1 boss, maybe a boss team (97 style) and a final boss (would be great especially if choosable). 4 normal charactes left. im betting mai is in it. 3 left. k and maybe even kula. and an aof chick, king (id hope so) or maybe yuri (cant be kasume, right?). if theres an open spot somewhere id hope for yamazaki but the chances are slim…
also as for hitsound, i really like the hit effects in RBS and RB2, those hits just sound good to me (not realistic, but HARD).
edit: joe would be the shit.
Is it anybody’s wonder if there is ever gonna be any 100% NEW characters in this game? :looney:
Does KOF even need new characters, especially with only 20 chars in the game and everyone not happy about someone not making it? It’s not like KOF has any gaping holes in the roster.
Honestly, I kinda wish they had used the new engine for a Real Bout 3 instead, then refined it and made it for KOF. You’d be able to reuse many of the sprite as a lot of those chars would be in KOF anyways.
21 person cast:
RBFF cast+ Xiangfei+ Rick+ Raiden+ Krauser+ boss Mr Karate (Ryo)
I hope some of the remaining cast is as re-designed as Ralph. I’d personally prefer this to a full new character. Ralf has a different look, that still manages to keeps his play style (from what we’ve seen) and personality.
What remaining cast would you like to see get such a redesign? I’d actually prefer Mai to get such a change. With the whole game getting a graphic overhaul, solidifying this new era with a change in such an iconic character would really mean something.
It would be risky, but impressive if they pulled it off.
What happened to the Billy Lee from ROTD’s rumor? I wouldn’t mind seeing that char. in XII.
Not sure but I do believe someone’s stolen my av :amazed: