LOL that reminds me; anyone remember how dark didn’t work AT ALL in FFVI? I’m fairly sure there were two status infliction that just didn’t do anything(when being directed at you and when you’d use them) but I know that dark is one of them for sure. As a kid I didn’t even know english and couldn’t figure wtf it was for…nor that it didn’t work.
Thats every older RPG.
Seriously. Every old RPG and even some newer ones have at least one thing that just didn’t work.
RGB is the best way to play on a BVM or PVM. Beats the hell out of any TV using composite. Here are some examples of traditional composite/RF/S-Video vs RGB. This is for retro gaming that doesn’t support VGA/Component. S-Video is decent, but still not as good as RGB. A lot of pics in the spoiler. Most shit PS2 and below support RGB natively and others can be modded for it.
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http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/gotRGB/RGB_Comp_Capture_Bump.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/Protogem/videocompare1.jpg
http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/235/2355960/2949864-rgb+comparison.png
http://hothardware.com/newsimages/Item30826/Comparison2.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/h1eROI6Lgh8/maxresdefault.jpg
http://retrorgb.com/images/NESRGBCompare10.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YvR6nEA.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10787805_379998105508392_1193476927_n.jpg
http://breakingnewsfeeds.com/media/sonic-cd-rgb.jpg
http://retrorgb.com/images/RGBMonitorsPage02.jpg
http://www.chrismcovell.com/gotRGB/screenshots/Son2ARGB.jpg
http://www.chrismcovell.com/gotRGB/screenshots/Son2AComp.jpg
I would say S-video should be your base standard for playing retro systems. Composite/RCA is just too muddled. RF is even worse.
Composite looks like one of those ugly filters that you always turn off in emulators.
While we are on the topic, has anyone in here try modding their NES with RGB output? If you have, how hard do you think it would be for someone who has no soldering experience to accomplish?
there was this kid who was MAYBE 8 at my store yesterday trying to tell me about what retro systems and games were the best. along with trying to tell me what retro games I need to play.
The entire time I was just like 
and :how_interesting: :look_at_the_time:
Like, you little mother fucker. All the games you’re naming I grew up with and still own, some even older than me. Don’t talk yo me like you’re hot shit. He even had the nerve to try and tell me what “NES” stood for
MOTHER FUCKER.
I generally don’t mad about “nerd cred”, trying to convince people I’m a "hardcore gamer’ and things of that nature but in this instance I wanted to fucking drop kick this kid. I hope he gets the shit kicked out of him at school.
That’s fucken funny.
like it wasn’t even like in a cute manner like "I PLAY THE SAME GAMES MY DAD DID WHEN HE WAS MY AGE’
no it was him literally going “I don’t play that modern stuff. I only play retro stuff. You know, like the NES. The Nintendo Entertainment System”
I have never wanted to harm a child so much in my life.
Only thing I don’t like about GH versions is how the random green bar looks on my shelf.
But once you realize that shit don’t matter… Fuck it.
Thanks for the suggestions guys .
Oh I forgot to ask is there a way to hook up old consoles to newer tvs and maintain a good solid resolution that doesn’t hurt the graphics.
Some have S-Video and it’s not horrible.
Some have VGA (E.g. Dreamcast, is all I can think of) and they look great. VGA > DVI or VGA > HDMI exist as well.
You could get an upscaling box, but that puts you at risk for more input lag.
And they tend to be expensive.
If the system supports RGB, that’s the only thing I would use. A lot of retro systems support it natively and all you need is the right cable.
Even handhelds like the Game Gear can output RGB. The ones that require modding can be found online with guides like this one for the NES (there are several different ways to mod it) http://retrorgb.com/nesrgb.html
DVDO iscan 20 with ABT deinterlacing card and XRGB Mini are the some of the best converter/upscalers/deinterlacers. Also they eliminate lag so you can play your games on a HDTV/Monitor in all their glory scanlines, RGB, and all. @ReoGeoSRK
Awesome thanks guys.
The lag issue does worry my thought if there for any reason is any input lag is there a easy way to fix it.
All right, I got the Retro Freak. Before I give my impressions, let me start by saying: fuck Play Asia.
Somehow, they managed to ship 2 consoles to me when I only ordered 1, and I have to send it back at my expense. I won’t be shopping at that website anymore. Anyway, here we go. This is it:
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It’s a lot smaller than I thought. Check this out:
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As you can see, the design is pretty bland. Just a small grey brick. Would’ve been nice if there labels so you know what goes where. The power button is at the back, which I thought was weird.
Here’s the included controller:
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The controller doesn’t win any awards. It’s nowhere near the quality of the SNES controller, which this was clearly modelled after (what controller these days isn’t, though?). The Retro Freak is supposed to work with the Dual Shock 3&4, which is great. What I’m wondering is whether arcade sticks will work. I’ll try plugging in my Hori RAP4 later to see if it works. You can use your original controllers with the RF, but it requires a separate adapter. The adapter comes with the premium edition (I got the standard).
Before I started playing games, I wanted to update the system since I heard it fixed a major problem with the console. Sadly, updating the RF isn’t as straightforward as downloading updates from the menu. Once I updated, I inserted one of my GBA carts into the console, and this is what happened:
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The RF gives you the option to save the game to the SD card (not included) whenever you insert a cart. There’s a bit of load time when you insert a cart, unfortunately. Here’s how the game looks without any filters:
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When you press the Home button on the controller, you get some options such as save states, take screenshots, etc. One thing I spotted when I was checking out the system options is that you can create a list of your games and save it as an XML, which I think is pretty cool. Here’s the game in action:
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Not bad, all things considered. I’m going to try out a bunch of games and see how they look. The big draw for me is that the RF supports the PC Engine (Turbografx). There are plenty of games I missed out on that console, and now I have an opportunity to play them whenever. Lots of import SNES games I gotta play too.
While I was waiting for the RF, I was thinking about holding a tournament for TMNT Tournament Fighters at Evo. I know some of you guys play! I’m not sure if that would be possible, but I like the idea of bringing the RF and just having impromptu tournaments whenever. It’s why I’m hoping arcade sticks will work with this thing, but it’s good to know that DS3&4 pads work. Time for me to play around with my new toy!
EDIT: Looks like the Hori stick works! Should be possible to play FGs with sticks.
Ultimately would you say it’s worth buying.
I guess that depends. I should note that while the Retro Freak does support NES/Master System games, the physical carts can’t be used (I believe there’s a separate adapter for this). I was already aware of this as the Retro Freak specifically says it supports Famicom and Sega Mark III games, though there’s only a slot for Famicom games and not the Mark III. The interesting thing is, when I tried playing the US version of Wonder Boy 3 via ROM, the music sounded different; I learned that this is because the Mark III had a different sound chip than the SMS, even though they were the same console. I tried StarTropics, and the music is slowed down for some reason; not sure if it’s the ROM or if all NES games are like this. I’ll try out other games to see if they have the same sound issue.
I’m happy with the purchase. I like being able to use the physical carts, and the ability to use arcade sticks will be great for playing certain games. I heard that the Retron 5 makes it hard to remove games from the console; the Retro Freak doesn’t have that problem. Games come out as easily as they go in.
EDIT: Another thing to note: the actual Retro Freak console is a tiny box that sits underneath the adapter. The adapter is the box that with all the cartridge slots on it. The console is detachable and can be used without the adapter if you’re not planning to use physical carts.
Here’s a screenshot of the manual
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@King9999 look up consumer rights where you are before paying so much as a penny to send that shit back.
Over here in England I know you don’t have to pay to send goods sent to you in error back, the sender either needs to send you pre-paid packaging or arrange a courier to pick it up at your convenience.
Since you’re probably in America look that shit up and see what your rights and responsibilities are.