I’ve never seen the phrase “dick ride” so many times in a thread on SRK.
Yesssss, somebody from North America needs to win this!
Whaaahahat? That’s so messed up. 
edit: dick ride
It’s also not true. People really need to stop making shit up.
I don’t think US will win TvC anymore. Our top players barely play the game, and japanese players seem really dedicated and versatile. I hope I’m wrong.
yeah. I mean, just look at all the new casshern combos and you will see the difference
If Justin Wong and Marn’s performance at Devastation is a show of the skill level of american TvC than we aint going to win …
The their combo’s were weak (a chun no meter combo should do no less than 40% … if you have ryu 50%), they did a lot of punishable shit that went unpunished.
I can’t speak to much of marn but i know chun-li and a 0 lightning leg match with her is not acceptable as air LL is absolutely stupid. I have never watched a pro match and felt that i could do strictly better than that match. I’m solid I won the few tournaments i’ve entered for TvC including a match against BukTooth/Cambell.
Devastation just made me really think we are going to lose it.
If any person actually want a good Chun BnB you can
cr. A>cr. B>st. C>df. C> 8Lightning legs (shouldn’t leave the ground it’s a jump cancel)> dash > st. A>st.C>LL>j. B>j.C>j.B>j.C>J.B>j.C> A spinning bird. This is her best non-partner BnB as you can actually PUNISH Cversion of DP kicks ins certain scenarios on hit.
You should can also do the same after a super just start it with
cr. A>cr.B>st. C>Fireball> Kick super>8LL > same as above after 8Lightning legs.
This will also push them like 3/4ths across the screen and since u land so quickly after spinning bird you maximize dmg for followup potential as they can’t air dash after the end of the combo. If you have Ryu the crossup shenanigans is very hard to block if you do it right and all Chun has to do is touch u once and if she has baroque and u have ryu they SHOULD DIE. If you have 3 bars … just try and get odd crossups into Lightning leg cancels into level 3 … it’s easy to confirm and HUGE dmg.
I personally think we have no chance as well, but I hope they prove me wrong!
I think Japan will take it since they take the game way more seriously, but Sephiroth’s feeling that he can do better than JWong is a joke IMO. Bet it, I guess.
i just hope the hype for this game hasn’t died down THAT much that US can’t make it out of the first round in TvC.
chuns best non meter combo is:
2b 5c 3c xx LLs [dash and jump C air dash C up cancel C] repeat brackets until corner there you can megacrash and go for the LLs infinite or keep doing the same thing for another infinite
pretty hard because the timing has to be near perfect, I havent fully mastered yet, I can only get about 3 or 4 reps mid screen (I think with 5 reps you take an opp from one corner to the other) but is very worth it is you ask me since with chun you want them in the corner.
Point of my post was not to say i could do better than jwong as he is strictly my better at fighting games. Mad props to the guy i’m not the kind of generic scrub who runs around saying “oooh me and him do same combo’s me and him must be equally as good!” JWong has mad good generic fighting game skills, but he is clearly unpolished in TvC. Point of my post is that going into an SBO level tournament clearly doing crappy combo’s, dropping easy infinites, and just all around playing generic fighter without truely having a feeling for TvC isn’t going to allow u to win it. I haven’t played the game in like 3 months cuz the game is so simple that i felt i exhausted all possible scenarios in the game very quickly and it started to get stale after only like 2 months of playing. Really Chun, Karas, and Ken rule the game and really some small mind games in these matchups are all that exists.
Amateur mistakes like counterpoking someone while your in the corner, dropping infinites (especially easyones), not maximizing dmg (or even getting close), not using proper assist coverage during attack strings, and the like isn’t going to cut it. He will probably brush up a bit before SBO, but the thought since we are good at MvC2 and so we are going TvC based on some few similarities in the game engine are laughable.
Justin Wong isn’t in SBO TvC, so this is a moot point.
I understand Spehiroth’s point. Yet, Choi was completely unpolished, out of shape and dropping easy combos last year, but he is so good that he beat the japanese in 2 games at Evo. Combos are important, but if you hit them more than you get hit you may of course win. That’s what Jwong does at many games even though he probably practiced only a couple hardcore.
I’m not saying he would be the favorite, but IMO a guy that is very good at combos may very well lose to him. Justin was not impressive in Third Strike or CvS2 and yet took many very competitive players out in past Evos. The top japanese players have everything and are the favorites, but the average guy won’t beat him just because he uses LL in his Chun.
I’m assuming Wong may have a shot at TvC’s last chance qualifier. If Marn is all we have, even though he’s really good, I think the japanese are on another level. I’ll still root for Marn anyways
The japanese TvC players are probably 4 or 5 levels above our best right now.
poor america
Yeah I just wanted to take this moment to extend a big “I told you so” and also a “WTF were you thinking” to everyone who said that anyone from America would take TvC. Y’all are dumb as hell.
Thats what we get for letting a guy who doesnt even like the game win our qualifier.
Double-downer. I couldn’t even make it to the qualifier back in June. I was busy exploring Asia at the time…
Japan has a much larger much more socially accepted fighting game community than America. Justin is a solid player, but the fact that he’s the best at multiple games only proves the point. You don’t see Momoji and Daigo as godlike players in GGXX AC, but they are pro Sf4. You don’t see Nanashi playing BB, But you see him a solid Veno.
The problem with america ( AND CANADA, since I see some of you posting) is that These are still games to us. You can say that you take it seriously, but at the end of the day, the common top player in america when given the option of going to school/work or mooching off all his friends and a single game nonstop, is going to go to the former. Not to say that all top japanese players are hopeless losers, but the very fact that the mentality of fighting games over there is ‘serious’ in it’s vast community makes it something recognizable. The fact that I played Tekken in an Arcade for a year in gameworks and had NO idea there was a fighting game community that embraced the serious aspect of it is what I mean. At best, America is an underground community for games, and KOF/SF4/TVC will never be taken as seriously as something like football here. In Japan, ,it’s well known that a larger amount of people play competitively, it’s not farfetched. It’s STRANGE to my friends who don’t play fighting games seriously to even believe that people do.
Justin can play most of our games better than most of us after a week of playing, even if we’ve been playing for months. This is supposed to be ‘competitive gaming?" when I walk in an arcade and see Justin get a perfect on the (at the time) Top East-coast MBAC player, Or see Justin come 2nd-3rd in a game he doesn’t even play, it makes the argument that we just aren’t serious enough. Not necessary a BAD thing, but it’ true a lot of the time. Sf4, BB are the only 2 things America is taking even remotely seriously right now, but TVC will not evolve into what other vs games were, especially Mvc2, not here anyway.
That, and the West never really developed the game much. Just got stuck at Karas, whereas in Japan nearly everyone has something.