I hope I don’t get lynched for this but… I really don’t care for FF. The old NES/SNES ones, I enjoyed more.
… I hated FF7. >.>
And that specific scene in X-2 just… raped my brain.
Also this article amuses me http://bit.ly/eiawRa
I posted this somewhere else too but does anyone know if there’s a list of all known nerfs and buffs for AE anywhere?
LMAO! Yea that’s the match.
I don’t get all of these people who don’t like FF7. I understand everybody has opinions and all that but usually they never even give a reason as to why they don’t like the game. They are just like, “it sucks.” Well why does it suck? If you don’t like FF7 then you just never liked turn based RPGs from the get go. FF7 will forever be on the list of greatest games of all time and if you didn’t like it then you didn’t like 8, 9, or 10 which is VERY hard to believe. Might as well say you don’t like Ocarina of Time while you’re at it, it took itself too seriously. Where’s my Moblins at?
Great magic system, great art direction and character design, one of the most iconic video game soundtracks, summons that were off the charts awesome, and a good story to boot.
How come people didn’t like this game? The only certifiable conclusion I can make is that you either didn’t play it when it first came out or you read every single negative thing about it years after its release and molded your brain to that mentality.
FF7 is the shit, you just missed out.
Good girl.
Also, it’s rant time.
Fantastically Long Wall of Text
[details=Spoiler]The beginning of 7 is where the series peaked, but the midpoint to the end is where it starts the slow, downward spiral that’s led to it being where it is now (ie: stagnant). I realized this while playing FFX, which I enjoyed very much but saw as a sign of worse things to come. The reason I say this is because it brought about FFX-2, and I realized that the fans can not be pleased anymore. Final Fantasy has been put on such a holy pedestal that anything Square does now with the series is automatically perceived as wrong by the fans, who mostly just want to fap to Cloud x Sephiroth yaoi. I put a majority of Final Fantasy fans right up there with Sonic the Hedgehog fans in the sense that they just need to shut the fuck up because they themselves are ruining the franchise by being impossible to please.
Let me explain in a little more detail:
I-VI – IV, V, and VI are amazing. I, II, and III haven’t aged well, but some clever remakes have fixed this.
VII – Good, but this is where the clock stopped. Why? Because all the fanatics want is a return to this. Nothing new, nothing original, just more of the same. And they’ll bitch once they get it. But where this series went wrong was Cloud. Why? Because Cloud started out as a huge bad-ass but turned into the biggest emo bitch girl in all of gaming history, save for one character in:
VIII – Worse than 7, but still good. And I’m sorry, but Squall is even more of an emo bitch girl than Cloud is.
IX – Probably one of the best stories in the series (aside from the boss who just happened to be there for no reason), and a good attempt to take it back to the series’ roots. But nooooo, the FF7 fanatics wanted more of FF7, which brings us to:
X – Where is your god now? That said, it was one of my favorites in the series, and I think I’m actually one of the few people who get the infamous “Laughing scene”.
X-2 – People want to forget this one, but I feel it’s important. Why? Because it was the jolt of something different and refreshing that the series needed. It was a breath of fresh air in a series that desperately needed something new. However when I showed the intro to a friend of mine, her face turned ugly and she screamed “They fucking ruined my Final Fantasy!” This is when I knew that things would never be fine with FF again.
This is why we can’t have nice things, people. This is why the Japanese market has gotten stagnant, and why it’s full of spiky haired cliched pretty boys with big ass swords… it’s because unless something even remotely resembles Cloud the game is dismissed, it’s wrong, and it’s “NOT Final Fantasy.” So we can’t have fun in FF? There can’t be any jokes? No fun and delightful antics from Zidane, the lovably perverted lil monkey boy from FF9? FFX-2 was a fun game. Yes, it reused too much stuff from FFX, but it was just a fun, silly, goofy romp for you to just relax and check your brain at the door, yet still has the standard complexities of an RPG. It was something different. And I loved every moment I played of it. I regret not finishing it.
But that’s not what the fans wanted. So, we got:
FFXII – This is where I gave up on the series. I played it for ten hours and said “No.” The gambit system was idiotic (you seriously need permission to wear a damn hat. What are they afraid of you doing… shoving it in your mouth and choking on it?), the characters were uninspired at best, and the game did something unforgivable: if you opened certain chests at the beginning, then you couldn’t get the most powerful items at the end. Uh… WHAT? RPGs are about exploration and hunting for items. Don’t punish players for acting out one of the core precepts of the genre.
Now, XI and XIV I’m not even going to deal with.
FFXIII – I was interested at first because it promised something different. However what I got was a clusterfuck of storywriting that couldn’t make its mind up as to who the main character was, and a battle system that took all the control away from the player and actually felt like it punished you for trying to play manually, because then it was slower than a pair of molasses-covered testicles rolling up a mountain in the middle of winter.
I only played it for Vanille. Yes, I’m serious.
But the worst travesty of the game is two-fold: first, the best-written character in the game was Hope, someone who I wanted to strangle because he’s come to represent everything I’ve begun to hate about FF – the bitchmade pretty boy, and second the fact that the game arrogantly expects you to sit through the longest tutorial in history just to get to the real meat of the game, which actually starts getting fantastically good around the fields of Gran Pulse. In short – the game’s pacing is HORRIBLE.
So now we’re getting XIII-2? Truthfully, I’m hoping for one of three things to happen:
- Something in the vein of X-2, but giving the dramatic approach the trailer takes, I’m doubtful.
- Something that focuses on the beautiful and majestic, with a sense of wonder that the early entries in the series had (especially 4 and 6). Lightning resembles Celes, so this makes me hopeful.
- Something that pisses off the Cloud fanboys so much that they give up on the series and Square-Enix can finally move on and do something different. I’m doubtful that’ll happen.[/details]
Also also, I have a job interview tomorrow at Robert Half Technology in Memphis at 2 PM, so I’ll be sticking around for Fight Night. If you have sticks that need working on, please bring them.
Also if you’re down for the party my cell is 732-687-6067. If you text just let me know who you are and i’ll give you info.
Of the ones I’ve played I liked 6, 7, 8, 10. With XIII I enjoyed it at first but then it got old towards the last disc. I’ll play the ones I missed when I get the FF Anthology and Chronicles editions plus I still have to get into 9.
The ff series as a whole is a great series but IMO more obscure titles that were not as popular as the ff series are indeed much much better than them and to me that’s the shadow heart series (well 3 was ok but 1 and 2 are great with 2 being the best) also rogue galaxy to me was an awesome rpg worth making a sequel to. Not to mention skies of arcadia and last but not least lost odyssey,this game sure had a lot of rpg cliches in it but the story was excellent! the pacing was great and Jansen is funny as fuck.
Also where the fuck is my sequel to chrono cross??? I’ll admit at first i hated the game because i compared it too much to chrono trigger but after playing it a second time i realized that the story in that game is just downright amazing.
duckie, i will explain roman numerals to you tomorrow.
I fixed it. Sue me. 
Also everybody is forgetting FF Tactics: War of the Lions.
I didn’t forget it, I just tried to stick to the main series. FF Tactics has always been a very, VERY consistent series. Excellent titles all around.
Did you play WotL or only the original? I’ve only played WotL and just from that they need to make an entire FF or new Tactics game made with just those sketchy CGI scenes.
I’ve played them all. I haven’t finished all of them, but I’ve played them. SRPGs are the most time-consuming genre there is, save for certain strategy titles. Shame though, because I really enjoy them. Jeanne D’Arc is something you should look into since you like WotL.
SRPGs really aren’t any longer than any standard RPG it just depends if you are a completionist or not. I don’t really care if everybody is level 99 I’m just in it for the story and a fun game.
Jeanne D’Arc is on my list of games to get but that won’t be for some time. Working on Xbox and 360 at the moment. But, have you ever play Ring of Red for PS2? I use to enjoy that when I first owned a PS2, it’s a pretty unique SRPG set in WW2. They even have footage where it really looks like they had rudimentary mechs during the time.
I own it. It’s a great idea, but combat was way too slow. It was pretty realistic, though, having to wait so long for shells to load, and only being able to move in certain directions in combat. It really was like playing a mobile artillery unit. That’s all it was, though. 
see, stuff like this is why i refuse to believe that people don’t pay attention to plot in games. people will say LOL BLACK OPS OWNES WHO CARES ABOUT PLOT GUHUHUHUH, and i’m not trying to compare apples to oranges here, but even Black Ops has a plot. it’s something i’ve been thinking about lately that i should probably write more about on a personal blog or my video game websi- whoops we closed it lol.
I’m not going to post about Final Fantasy in order to keep things civil. Duckie posts so I don’t have to.
Japan (especially Square) likes emo teenagers who fall in love, like complain about stuff, and save the world!
Thanks. I’ve always been kinda known for shooting my mouth off all the time. One doesn’t exactly earn the title “Rabid” by being docile. ^^;
Probably because they secretly view themselves as being defeated and have grandiose ideas about life, love, and freeing themselves from oppressors.
Code Geass is a prime example of this.