Vitamin K is slated to appear.
dont forget its 12-6 tomm. lol, so make sure you factor that into your plans
Yeah, I just saw you were uploading stuff from past matches onto your channel just now. Sorry, had no idea you had a sizable backlog.
Cool bro. But…do you own a copy of Tekken 6 or have you even played it? Ever? By the time we get our hands on TTT2, half of the people that bombard this thread won’t even be playing fighting games anymore. It is truly a ways away. You or anyone else thinking of getting into Tag and declaring that you’ll play it and all that, really need to learn Tekken 6 first or at least play it. It’s the same shit except you use two characters and a few mechanic changes. There’s something about new trailers that make people go crazy over games lol.
Man I’ve already been peeping KOFXIII. AE and MvC3 aren’t even on my radar. I could care less lol. People already don’t have to worry that XIII will be like XII, it’s actually a full game lol. If they’ve fixed the bugs for arcade revisions and console, and maybe tweaked the balance(people hate for wrestlers to be top tier) then it’d be just ANOTHER good KOF game. Ain’t shit new about that. Only diff is, it’s actually one that is nice to look at, and this generation of fg players try to play everything, so it may actually have a consistent scene. I’m playing regardless though. This just gonna be my 2D game. XIII and Tekken, I’m fine with those two, if I never play anything else.
Except those games, sidestep owned and projectiles were useless. And like 97% of all moves got punished hard on block. So it was essentially a turtle fest except when throws were mixed in occassionally. MKvDC brought back a bit of rushdown for what it was worth and had combos that weren’t dial-up. But “best” 3D MK was MK4.
MK9 is looking real 2D. This is defined when Cage can completely cover his area, directly in front of him with Shadow Kick, and arc above him with uppercut. And occasional fireball to zone. 2D game. Of course, in true MK fashion, I bet all moves will be highly punishable. Getting anything blocked on a MK game is the most fucked up shit ever.
And this is why I cannot understand, for the life of me, why the “cheapness” in Tekken to other players, is the oki game. When you actually have options on how to get up. People can learn what they can plink and fuzzy guard and footsie and safe jump, but are dumbfounded on how to recover appropriately when knocked down by the same shit for the 5th time. This IS why Tekken is a horrible game then lol.
Responding late as usual, but I’m def in for Final Round as well!
Sounds fun, me too.
I plan on going to FR as well…
Anyone in the Knoxville area going to the tourney on the 8th. Wanna car pool up to the tourney. Will pay for my ride or will drive either one doesnt bother me. Just pm or find me on aim.
We got people here for AE today, come on out for comp!
No one said Tekken is horrible, but the game is not newbie friendly for people wanting to learn it and the Tekken community is HIGHLY sensitive about their game. Basically they can make fun/talk shit about SF and we can’t say anything about Tekken even when the same stuff is going on.
and you said it, we are dumbfounded on how to block when we get knocked down on shit the 5th time in a row, why? People don’t explain that to us the options of wakeup instead of being rejuggled. I had NO IDEA you had to hold Up to block on certain wake up options when knocked down to “stand up and block” as one of the options. I went to sessions for this game at Cody’s, played with Charlie and Ian for awhile, finally Ian says something to me after I’m getting hit all the time, but look how long it took? The thing is with Street Fighter you can figure all of this stuff out. Plinking, safe jump, footsies are all controlled…Tekken is very dangerous, you die extremely quickly if you mess up on the ground game on a block.
THAT is what people don’t like about the game…it’s my number one complaint about it because you have to basically know and understand each character’s set of moves and you can’t just “figure” out how to play a character or be able to even visually see what the player did and know what it was on screen unless you have thoroughly studied the game.
Point being is the game requires a lot of time and studying because it is dangerous and the blocking mechanisms and movement are not about walking, it’s about dashing and basically you WILL get hit and once you get hit you have to figure out how not to get hit AGAIN once you are juggled because of the damage…
I like Street Fighter and I like Tekken but Street Fighter is just more natural to me and many other players because we can figure it out on the fly, Tekken you can’t because there is no basic set of moves for each character you can figure out on the fly and you really need to know frame data in that game…
Tekken 6 is a very easy game to play, very hard game to master…
Street Fighter (now, with 4 series) is an easy game to play and easier game to master than Tekken 6 because of all the newbie stuff they added to it…
FlyMike: If that ground game made more sense to me, I’d probably play Tekken more but for the life of me I still don’t understand it because there seem to be like 5 things you can do and you have to know and prepare for what the other person is doing and it’s hard to do that unless you know the engine well which I don’t. THAT is why the game gets little love out here, we just don’t want to take the time to learn it if the engine is not agreeable.
I’ll play it against people that want to play it, but no one here wants to play it at the arcade anyway…
Trippfan: Tips…Well, you have one style you walked back the entire set…at that rate with you not mixing things up with offense or showing you have another gameplan makes it easier to figure out. You have to not show your whole hand as soon as the match starts…
Okay. Will try to work on it. Thanks Dreamtr
Lol I feel you on that. I was being sarcastic but wasn’t referring to you though, because you actually took out the time for it at least. Was mainly talking about the people who say, "Omg he just stomped that guy for lying on the ground in front of him. This game is BROKEN! I used to feel discouraged and overwhelmed too. Cursed the game, said I was gonna singlehandedly start a Virtua Fighter scene and all that. But peeps schooled me and I learned the mechanics, movement, options, all that I was able to do, I could not call the game cheap. See that’s my point.
No doubt SF feels more “natural”. We’ve been playing 2D for a long time. And the 3D games that we did play on PS1 were just jagged edged characters and we had funky cameras and it prob had ZERO ground recovery lol and maybe they added sidestep later. Now the 3D game that is the most predominant has all this movement and mechanics and engine foreign to the “feel my way around” fg. So the thing now is, everyone should know by now that Tekken requires knowing. So with that out of the way why are people still calling it “cheap”? No one really says…
“Oh, I didn’t know that I should’ve got my ass up.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve remained on the ground.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve side-rolled.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve teched.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve got up and blocked.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve toe-kicked.”
“Oh, I ididn’t know I should’ve got up with low-sweep.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve got up with toe-kick.”
“Oh, I didn’t know I should’ve backrolled away.”
"Oh I didn’t know I should’ve rolled forward."
etc.
Then, once you recover “correctly”, a decent player is gonna mix up what he does on knockdown next time and you’ll have to recover “correctly” to that. And so on. Yea, it’s alot of shit in Tekken you prob won’t figure out in a few matches. But alot of the stuff that gets talked about in this thread as far as these “advanced” terms, very few people figure that out by themselves without reading or watching podcasts and youtube vids.
3s is likely my “fave” fg… probably, and the one I spent most time with before I started Tek. I consider myself more a SF-ish player. So I’m not hating if SF4 is less than what I personally expected. But it makes me kinda cringe when people say they really want to play Tekken, then quit because they got their shit fucked up for repeatedly backrolling with the wall behind them. And it’s perfectly understandable. Unlike the guy that tries to play charge characters in SF4, his fingers are stuck in d/b. So he never blocks or AAs jump-ins. This is a crime though. I mean, I won’t rest on the shit because you got guys like Sev and Orel who learned Tekken hella fast with a bottle of beers just for shits and giggles and to do drunk MMs, and “juggle us like clowns” and ended up being better than some guys here who claim to exclusively “play” Tekken. How were they able to do this? They ARE the epitome of SF player here. That shit is their crack. But it only took them a few times to get buttslammed or coffin-dropped on by me before they at least TRIED to get up diff ways until they found what worked.
Jason, it’s no excuse for people who got all that extra SF knowledge that doesn’t mean a thing because they don’t even know their normals, but a few situational Tekken options make their minds explode? Cmon lol. I just want people to say “fuck the game” or “I dont want to play it” instead of “im not playing that game because when u put me on the wall I have to get hurt” or something stupid like that. You know that’s what it’s been among the “semi-interested players” that spent hours learning juggles before any basics whatsoever.
It’s a redundant topic. But people should be thinking “if Orel can learn Tekken wasted and play with a brain, and have adequate decision-making, then why does my head asplode everytime I get knocked down?” That shit is hilarious.
Fuck the game, I don’t want to play it.
But I say that about Street Fighter also, so bleh
never liked Tekken…so i never played it.
I liked Tekken, until I repeatedly got my ass handed to me by Nina in 5…
Guilty Gear is my true love although there’s no scene for it anymore. Tons of people play SF and it’s fun so Im just focusing on that right now…
I was big into gear too, from #r all the way to AC. Those were fun times. I didn’t get into BB though. I might give it another shot someday.
Spire are you going to the tourney on the 8th?
Shout-outs to Bishop for the ssf4 crack session last night. I learned 2 things last night from our matches. 1=My Rufus is the truth! and 2= Bishop needs to keep playing Ibuki.
k… Finally… All matches are up on my youtube channel… MMs, beer matches, grudge matches, whatever…
YouTube - madsquabblin’s Channel
…and after watching mine, I got a lot of work to do…