Tennessee Thread - Arcade Edition and Turtle Nuts

:sad:Will not be able to go to KIT. Will be in Houston/Dallas for Super Bowl week.
Final Round is also kind of iffy. I have to get surgery on my elbow/triceps.:sad:

Super Bowl?

Surgery?

I know what I will doing during Final Round…NCAA MARCH MADNESS TIME!

I’m sorry, I can’t get over how anyone has PS3 tourneys on SSF4 anymore, LOL…

Are you getting robot elbows? Because that shit would be fucking insane.

See what I mean when I say peeps don’t listen to me? SMH…still I cant quit tryin, hopefully one day someone will answer the call.

And why is that? Because you know, only an non-serious person would want to motivate his local scene to improve right? Or maybe it’s because I don’t JUST play SF?

Good luck with your surgery Jacob.

Got to see my family. I can’t believe it’s gonna be on ps3. I got to rework my timing.

Dude that would be the shit. One armbull rushes

Like Liquid Ocelot !

Orel- Lol I’ll show up if im not doing anything just the corkcrew you personally. and Bishop IS serious about SF4 trust me on that.

Bishop- Yeah I see

ROFL!

Jaxcob Ford.

boondocks inmate voice and properly!

LMAO! I was thinkin the same thing! Put that shit as an alternate costume for MK9 Jax!

Sadly enough I actually don’t play Street fighter anymore outside of training mode, but What I do in training IS quite extensive and I think it’s still leveled me up in ways playing others hasn’t. Although I feel like my vast matchup knowledge has been waning without reliably playing other people online.

PS: Josh places in bigger tournaments outside of TN, it doesn’t so much translate that Person A beats Person B who beats group C, so person A can beat group C. The way I found that I have the most success is that I snowball on people, the more I play them, the better I get at playing against that person, so someone like me who relies on bad player tendencies won’t do as well against a new group rather than people I play against all the time, whereas someone like Josh who is a monster if you don’t realize what’s going on immediately probably has a much higher chance of beating a new group.

Yuck. I hope everything goes well for you. Having never had any kind of surgery I’d be pretty scared.

Okay, I’m definitely not headed into town tonight, but Cylus is. Squabb, please leave your stick with him and I’ll repair them. Jas, I have a 360 pad to put in your stick. You’ve already paid for the labor, but the part is $20. I’m not expecting payment right now, but I want to get this thing done before MvC3 comes out. Leave your stick with Cylus and I’ll take care of it this weekend.

Oh, and Bishop: Lighten up. People are progressing at their own paces (and some of them doing a great fucking job at it too… remember where Abe was last year?), and just because they don’t line up to your vision, there’s no need to pitch a fit and start insulting everyone.

Have you stopped to consider a few things, such as:
– You work nights, therefore are not exactly accessible all the time.
– Read the thread. People are already playing with top notch players, such as Sev, Dream, and Cylus (when he’s available).
– A majority of the people in this scene don’t have a PS3.
– People may not exactly take kindly when your approach is “HEY! YOU ALL SUCK! YOU NEED TO GET GOOD LIKE ME, AND NONE OF YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH ME SO YOU WON’T GET GOOD!” Yeah, that’s really motivating. :coffee:

Really, chill out. People have different priorities than you. Respect them.

That’s definitely correct…tournament settings are tough because you could be completely better than that person, but lose 2-0, 2-1 and that’s it.

I’ve had that happen to me both ways…losing to someone more IRL, winning in tourney 2-1, beating someone IRL 50-0 then lose 2-1when we play in tourney…

I personally adapt very well to both settings, though…Josh is hard to adapt to in tourney setting and it is shown unless they have Rufus experience…people take him lightly. I never took him lightly (I don’t take anyone lightly) so I never worry about things like that…

The hardest thing to do is to KEEP winning against the same people over the course of a game because people will adapt to you eventually, and you have to relearn how to beat them as they get better.

Everyone has adapted much better here to my alternate characters, but the main ones people still have a hard time with and keeping that up for 2 years is tough…have to keep changing styles against people as that is my greatest asset, being able to look like I am predictable and don’t know something, then pull shit out of my ass that I had been keeping in my back pocket…

Regardless of any of this, the “talk” of Memphis leveling up also has something to do with traveling more and such.

Wootsick has traveled a lot and he does have school. Whereas he has had issues in bigger tourney settings, he’s still new to this whole thing.

Josh has traveled MORE in a short period of time and accomplished more than anyone outside of TN in Super Street Fighter IV with two big placings…

Negro Justice has won some locals and did well at Season’s Beatings, so he is on the map for that one…

Shawn can ONLY got to Final Round outside and he was tied for 33rd when he went to that, as well as him consistently winning a bunch of tourneys here…

We have a lot more people up and coming that will place well, Pat, Eddie, (don’t get mad at anyone I have missed) but the point being is I think getting a bunch of people to try and level up to national standards is very tough to do.

Now, I don’t “know” a ton about Tekken, but I know the Memphis players have to travel to EVO or MLG big tourneys to be recognized and other than Anakin and ATL players doing well (I know Majin did well in some local ones and won KiT) it’s still far from going to Cali and EVO and all that…

With that said EVERYONE has to travel more and place more in order for people to do well and be a force…it’s just not in the cards for everyone to do that…money and life get in the way.

If you really break down and take into consideration the TOP TOP players, they do gaming for a living almost and play a LOT of SF.
Justin, Marn, Floe, Sanford, Sabin, Ricky (who does work full time at a gaming place), Flash; etc.

These guys play infinitely more than everyone here does and have more time with better comp. It’s no secret they moved to Cali for a reason (or in Sabin/Sanford’s case, more dedicated players)

It’s like with anything…why is there better comp in certain areas? Online only player comp is catching up, but it’s hard to fight the latency issue IRL against the bigs unless you have practiced a lot offline and in certain areas we just don’t have a lot of offline players. (See Knoxville)

I have this same issue. I do well against people I play a lot over time. I still lack the ability to adapt to a new person fast enough in a tourney setting to really make any progress. Evo was a great example of this to me.

Also (as Duckie pointed out)

Memphis Tekken/Guilty Gear scene is ENTIRELY different than SF…(heck TN Tekken to be lumped in)

Memphis had grudge matches and shit talk and all that for those games…Street Fighter players don’t really jump on that as much and the current SF players have surpassed the Memphis Tekken/GG players in SF (though I would love to see what it would be like if Bishop, Shin, and Majin actually went to gatherings all the time)

I think there is just an overall frustration of scenes not matching up which is brought to people not taking stuff seriously.

Tekken has taken such a backdoor to Street Fighter that it’s very hard to say the players here are not already at what the Tekken players have accomplished.

If you have Majin placing 1st in a 50 man tourney, and Jacob Ford placing top 100 in a 2,000 man SSF4 tourney at EVO…how does that not say that Jacob is on as high of a level in SF as Majin is at Tekken?

At one point you have to justify numbers of entrants for something like that. IF Tekken had 2,000 entrants I am sure things would be on the flipside about this, but remember, when I first moved here, this place was all Tekken and Guilty Gear. Crickets for Street Fighter. I had to beg and plead for anyone to play and now the tables have turned. It’s not like we didn’t try with Tekken here, we got Tekken 6 and T6BR and the only players that played were out of towners and the “locals” here consisted of Cody/Ian/Charlie on a not as regular basis but the game did well because of randoms, hardocres just did not get into it.

I can’t explain why SF is doing this much better than Tekken. At one time Tekken was bigger here in the US (and SF was bigger before that) around the time of Tekken 3 and TTT, Tekken was getting huge…but it is what it is with numbers…just old school styles of getting hype and learning as opposed to new school styles (the past couple years) for a fighting game series…

I will admit, the SF scene is much more mellow and welcoming than the Tekken scene in MEMPHIS. Having said that, none of the SF players have nothing but respect for Tekken as a game and as a scene. I will never tell anyone that they can’t play a game at fight night that they brought a setup for. Play freaking Waku Waku 7 for all I care, as long as you brought a setup for it. Only reason Tekk doesn’t get played that I can see at fight night is that the regulars that DO bring setups are all SF players.

Another things to consider is that many of the Memphis SF players are concerned with growing the scene as a whole, not solely with their own personal improvement.

This makes sense on one hand, but on the other hand, the main people that you see in Tekken tournaments now ARE the “cream of the crop.” Majin went through TOP players to get #1 at the last KiT (Fab, Clint, FightingGM). What top players did Jacob have to go thru to get his spot at Evo? And how many people, total, did he have to beat? And to be fair, I’m not saying he didn’t have to beat some good people or that he isn’t good–he’s WAY better than me at SF4 now and easily one of the best in TN–I’m just just asking for discussion and knowledge sakes.

Every MLG Tekken tourney was full of nothing but bosses from every area: everyone at every tourney agreed that about 90% of the people there had a chance to win the whole thing. You’re again comparing apples and oranges here. When you can say 90% of the people at SF4 majors have a legitimate chance at winning, then the comparison will have merit.

Once again, that’s not at all to dis Mr. Ford. He’s a damn good player at his game. And I’m not riding Terrelle’s dick, either. I just don’t see the logic in this comparison.

I think some of the big reasons SF is finally doing big things again are pretty varied. Its like the perfect storm of a game to get people interested.

  1. Its the first “Street Fighter” branded game since 1999, and the first Capcom fighting game since Jam if I’m not mistaken.

  2. It has retro appeal because of the full Super Turbo cast along with a lot of favorites from Alpha and 3S.

  3. Because it was new, there was a sense of getting in on the ground floor as far as learning the ins and outs whereas in the older games everything was pretty much already figured out.

  4. Being available for the major systems and having a pretty decent online mode to attract casuals, as well as being “easier” to play.

  5. People want to be the next Justin Wong or whatever.

The reason why Tekken and GG were so popular I believe was that they kept it reasonably fresh with new installments every 2 years or so. With such a big lull from Capcom regarding fighting games people just kind of turned their back and gave up hope.

Agreed with all of this. Plus, it’s more simplistic and the #1 factor, in MY personal view, is the online playability of it. Tekken is generally only playable if you have a 5-bar or GOOD 4-bar connection. SF4 is pretty playable as it requires fewer inputs per second to be read and throws that don’t need to be read on sight. Simplicity is where it’s at for online play, and that’s much harder to do in Tekken due to the sheer amount of information that has to be transferred between 2 players’ consoles. SF4 was good to go online right out of the box and T6 required a patch to make it PLAYABLE, not even near-offline.

In the USA, online rules competition now, and SF4 is the #1 game as it has completely devoured that market. As arcade is still the dominant market in Asian countries, Tekken 6 has been the #1 arcade game every year since its release (unless I read the front page of SRK incorrectly). Tekken just can’t match it here cuz of the online, and that’s a legit factor that Capcom got right.