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Got back from the team tournament now. Went 0-2 in teams, largely due to matchup-inexperience against one of the best Eddy players and one of the best Yoshi players in Norway. The casuals afterwards were really fun though, and I managed to take games off of people I previously have had no chance against. Nice to see progress.

Learning the matchups against Eddy, Xiaoyu and Yoshi are definitely one of my biggest priorities going forward. All those three are pretty popular here, so it’s going to be a roadblock unless I understand how to beat them.

Good stuff! Quite the blessing too; being exposed to good Eddy/Yoshi players. :slight_smile: With how free they make me look, I’d certainly welcome it myself, lol.

Still pissed at a friend of mine, who wanted to main Xiaoyu, played the game once, against me, then proceeded to never bother again. Not someone who’s scared of fighting games either, not at all. Just got too comfy with not sucking in those games, not wanting to be a newbie in yet another franchise. Sigh, there goes that matchup gold mine.

hey thats interesting and im thinking
we should all list the most popular characters in our area the ones you gotta learn the matchup for. or the ones that you will see in tournament

I know for me its jack and our best player uses mishimas so you have to learn those matchups.
law is another one i gotta sit down with

made savior with akuma
now just devil jin left and then onto overlord

We have a lot of Eddy (unsurprising), Xiaoyu (not all that surprising) and Yoshimitsu (surprising), so I need to be prepared for those. Dragunov, Feng and the Mishimas all have several good players behind them too, but I do a lot better against those than against the more unorthodox characters. Dragunov is pretty straightforward, and I’ve played Feng and Mishimas enough to know how to deal with them.

There’s also players with one character that are likely to give me trouble, in particular Lee, Miguel, Law and Hwoarang, but that’s just one player each. Furthermore, those guys aren’t beating me mainly because I don’t know the matchup, they’re just better players than me currently, so learning the MU isn’t quite as high a priority yet.

I still think it’s a pretty huge advantage for me that nobody else plays Leo around here, even though everyone acknowledges that she’s incredibly strong. I don’t feel I mostly win based on people being inexperienced against her, but the rounds where I get the wall against someone who doesn’t know how to deal with her wall game often end in fireworks, which can very easily make the difference in a tournament.

i had a xiaoyu player who unfortunately didnt sticked to the game even tho he said he likes it. learned to play very patient against her and to hopkick her backturn stand…thats it… :frowning:

Feng b4 smokes Ling tho

Man, I’m bad against lows. Had a friend play Kazuya, ate every single hellsweep. So we focused on that a little more, but despite him spamming it half the time for the sake of practice, for like 10 matches straight, I still couldn’t predict or react to a single one. Sure, he’s pretty good with hiding the dash beforehand, but…

…is there any rule of thumb I’m not getting? Some secret Discord tech? Or do I just have the reactions of a sloth zombie? :lol:

You can’t react to hell sweeps generally when facing a Mishima you have to predict humans don’t react you have to follow his movements…And pick up on habits.
You can react to the crouch dash motion but they have so many options like instant while standing moves, Electrics, command grabs, hellsweep and ff moves. If they hit the brakes they can cancel into other moves.

Yeah, that’s what he told me too. I can’t imagine tackling all those options anytime soon, when the hellsweep alone gives me so much trouble. Will be a rough learning experience for sure.

Thanks for the wise words.

If he’s going in at predictable timings you can often just snipe him on the way in with a mid-hitting keepout-move (mid-hitting to ensure he doesn’t crush your high with a hellsweep or something). This does mean pre-empting them entirely, so you might get whiff punished if they wavedash forward and then backdash/sidestep to bait out your move, but it means you avoid the mixup entirely if it works, and get rewarded with some (often decent) damage.

You can also sidewalk to your left in anticipation to avoid most of the wavedash-options, which also gives you a whiff punish.

This Weekend 10/7-8 TWFighter Major Schedule & Brackets ft JDCR Saint Knee qudans NOROMA AK & more

10/7-8 TaiwanFighter Major 2017
http://twfmajor.com/
Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/tekken
Bracket CST UTC+8 UTC PDT UTC-7
Pools Sat 1200-1400 Sat 0400-0600 10/6 Fri 9p-11p
Top8 Sat 1400-1500 Sat 0600-0700 10/6 Fri 11p-12a
Top4 Sun 1400-1600 Sun 0600-0800 10/7 Sat 11p-1a
Brackets & Notables:
Group A
Saint, Jeondding, OKAY, Pekos, Doujin
Group B
NOROMA, Tsubumi, Dimeback, OKATY, kkokkoma
Group C
JDCR, Lili Man, qudans, Book
Group D
Knee, AK, Chanel, Kurokuro

http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2017/10/5/tekken-world-tour-finals-taking-place-november-12-with-playa.html
12th November - Geese Gameplay Videos to be expected to come in.

Yeah nobody blocks hellsweeps on reaction, they block them by anticipating them.

Sidestep left and sidewalk left gives Kazuya trouble however. His homing move punches are unsafe, too.

Both Hei and DJ can be stepped in the same direction as Kaz, although they’re not as linear.

Duke du H’ardcore wants to have a word with you filthy casuals:

Accidentally found out that Xiaoyu can combo So Shoe Me (f2+3) into another throw when the opponent’s back is against the wall, thus giving me 65 damage as a result. I wouldn’t expect that to even work.

The opponent can hold down after the throw to avoid any guaranteed follow-ups.

Ah, didn’t know there were an option for that. This just makes f2+3 kinda useless, it seems.

Walls can be thugs aswell…

>practice ewgf for 20 minutes on hitbox, fail miserably
>try to use keyboard, do 5 in a row on both sides on my first try

Wtf

20 or 30mm buttons?