^ woah, someone finnaly agrees with me, but other fanboys in this thread are just as bad.
I hate these game vs. game arguments, just play what you like.
^ woah, someone finnaly agrees with me, but other fanboys in this thread are just as bad.
I hate these game vs. game arguments, just play what you like.
I don’t understand, is a black and white either/or system a good thing or something?
Like JamMaster says, it’s called “learning.” It’s predictable if you understand it. It just depends on the properties of the moves.
Edit to history of Tek/VF
No offense, but IMO the tricky characters whip up on the juggle-based characters. Ever seen a good Ling player disembowel a Bryan player? It’s uuuugly.
VF4E is definitely the deeper game in terms of all the stuff that can go on. I’d say that’s a weakness and a strength. For absolute fans who are willing to devote uncounted hours to perfecting their skills, VF4E (and FT I guess, though I’ve never played it) are surely the way to go. For people who work two jobs, have a wife and 4 dependents (this means me!), Tek’s more fun, because you can get into it and have a lot of fun without investing time and effort available only to those with less demands on their free time.
I think both are awesome and fun games with plenty of depth. Tekken 5 needs a better backstep (though you can just jump back LOL) and VF4E needs less slam priority IMO. Haters on each series will criticize VF for its slam-priority and Tekken for its wake-up cycle games. Nothing new there.
Also how can anyone say Lei Wulong is a weak character?! He’s been kickass since Tekken 2 and still is.
Edit: VF was definitely out first. First 3D fighting game ever.
LOL did you ever heard about BACKDASHCANCEL?
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I’m not the only one here who posted about this game being/seeming jugggle dependent. Maybe I’ll watch more Korean vids or something.
Besides my shit wasn’t bad like Josh X.
Read: It’s a fucking mess. VF3 was a great example of a more hitbox-based evasion system. It would be perfect for Tekken (and no I don’t mean the evade button, I mean the usage of the evade itself).
Exactly. YOU have to test, because Namco didn’t. Doesn’t it bother you that you have absolutely no clue which way to SS/SW against a given move until you test test test?
OK, now we are getting to the real juice. This is why VF players say Tekken has no mind game. There is a huge amount of options from the offense, but just as many on defense.
Let’s say I block a d/f+1,2 and SWR. From what you said, she can do just about any fucking thing and beat that. I’m taking a risk to beat ONE THING. And why does 1 hit SWR, yet d/f+1 does not? they are both linearly animated left hand strikes. Is it that the 1 is high and the d/f+1 is mid? Mids can be evaded and highs cannot? I’m sure that’s not it. There is no system.
Well I can just backdash I guess. There are much more defined options to beat that. But once I dismiss the option to SS/SW, it makes the game simpler; I am taking away an option. The option to SWR is still there, but it’s one I really wouldn’t want to fuck with against a player with a brain.
As of now and according to the World rankings, Lei is still bottom tier with Kuma/Panda.
Lei hasn’t been awesome since T3/TTT.
Shut up.
No You Shut Up Your Stupid
^^^ that was suppose to be all caps…this forum cannot carry the rage contained in that sentence!
I used to be nice and try to not say things that would make people think I’m trying to be elitist, but whatever I don’t give a shit. It’s not like anyone cares about VF anyway.
When fighting games completely disappear, don’t whine about the companies not being innovative or moving forward, because the best fighting game you could ask for has been in your fucking face this entire time.
Wow, get over yourself. So VF isn’t popular in the US 'cause of the ignorant masses…right?
Or maybe it’s 'cause the US VF community is fucking pathetic. If you play other games (especially Namco games) and try to get into VF, you’re treated like a plague carrier.
So Tekken’s inferior? There’ve been Tekken players who picked up VF and got damn good, yet that doesn’t seem to happen vice-versa in the US, probably 'cause arrogant tools like yourself just sit around and complain without lifting a finger to help your game’s image.
yeah im raging against the machine lol
Look, the Columbus “crew” (if you can even call it that; we only have 3 main players, and about 4-5 frineds that play, but not super seriously) has been one of the friendliest groups to new VF players. So don’t point the finger at me, I’m just saying what I feel. I’m not going to name names of VF players that have hurt the community, I know there are too many of them. Especially when the community is shit-small to begin with.
It’s kind of a lose-lose situation. If VF players sit back and go with the flow, no one pays attention to VF anyway. And if they try to bring attention to themselves they just take a lot of shit and get called elitists. I try to walk the fine line between the two, but it’s never done any good. No one has started or stopped playing VF because of anything I’ve said.
kuma/panda’s endings are top tier though
I think the only reason they’re so top tier is Lee. Still funny as hell though. Lee’s ending is soooooooo wrong.
:amazed: Well, it’s that I don’t follow the games on the fan sites. I’m sad for Lei though; he was Bruce’s old rival.
How do Bruce and Bryan rate? Can you link to the rating site? I must have missed it on Zaibatsu - just skimmed.
What about yoshimitsu, is he top tier or what?
I think he is mid/low tier. I’m not to sure, but pretty sure.
Can someone post the endings video’s or a site that has them?
last i heard yoshi was low tier, but what does the man from iran know?
T5 is a great game. :tup: I think the best part is the fact that they put the PS2 controller plug-ins on the arcade machine itself. This allows you to practice at home and then go to the arcade to test your skills on other people. Plus you will not have an excuse about not being able to play because of the joystick. Basically you will not be at a disadvantage because of the controller. That is all!