It’s like of like the shotgun vs Flare, they’re both good but in different ways. With FaN, if I flank a medic, he’s dead. Same with a lot of classes. With scattergun, if I flanked him, I’d still kill him, but somebody on his team might notice and drop me before I can pump out that damage. Its definitely good if you can get in close, pump out the rounds, and bail out. I think overall scattergun is more powerful and useful in serious matches and stuff, just as I think the same with the flaregun for pyro; I still equip the flaregun and the FaN because they fit my personal style better.
I’m a bad soldier. I use the regular rocket launcher.
220 damage in half a second (as opposed to 200 in 1 second, repeatable 3 times in a row), but considering the knockback the second shot wont do 110 damage, so it’s more like 170 in half a second, then if one of the shots isnt dead on it’s like 140 damage in half a second, if one of them misses for whatever reason (being juggled, blasted, bad at aiming, etc) it’s 70 damage in half a second, you see where I’m going with this? It’s a crutch because you might land 2 perfect shots on a medic now and then, and yes, they are like a backstab in that case, but most of the time you’ll run around merely irritating people with your 40 damage lolshots over range before you have to retreat. It’s a worse weapon in theory, and in practice. Not saying you can’t like it better due to personal preference, but it is infact overall worse.
Now to the TDH. As I said before, I main solly, so I was looking forward to the soldier update for a looooong time; I was on mumble with my teammates and I was saying over a year ago that I want a RL that does less damage to targets on the ground unless a direct hit on their body, that juggles more, and deals more damage on airshots- yet, now I don’t use it. I don’t use it in matches because it’s not reliable, splashdamage is necessary to keep scouts away from the medic (or even myself), and hitting a direct hit is not always feasible (selfdamage) or possible (humans dont have perfect aim). That’s the reliability thing. I’m saying it’s a crutch because it:
- deals too much damage. No class (demoman included, nerf stickies <124 damage) should be able to oneshot another class, with exception of spy/sniper.
- rewards airshots that my mother could land due to increased rocketspeed.
- rocketspeed makes it almost hitscan at close range, hence removing all the prediction necessary to land bodyshots.
- it promotes blind, long-range spam
They took a great idea (submitted by Moose from Crack Clan in the “closed competitive TF2 beta”) and made it pub-friendly. It was supposed to be a weapon for skilled soldiers, not a weapon to make allready possible stuff easier for new players. That’s all the (old) FaN, the huntsman and TDH do, they make already possible stuff easier for less effort. I don’t care about that personally, it just is a game designed for pubs, but they are crutches for bad scouts, snipers and soldiers simply because they help people that are bad at the class more than they do help people that are already good at the class.
Again, nothing wrong with that (every game needs a constant supply of new players), especially not for a pub-game, but please dont try to argue that those noobcannons add to the skill-ceiling of the classes or the game as a whole.
I kill people every time I flank them unless interrupted by other people. This is in pubs, mind you, because I think competitive TF2 is kind of a stupid idea in the first place. I don’t always get that luxury with the scattergun.
That doesn’t change the fact that someone who is bad at soldier is still going to do worse on average with the TDH than the RL. Hence, it’s not a crutch, just different. Sagat is a crutch in SF4, the AWP was a crutch in CS, but the DH is nowhere close.
I also never attempted to argue what those weapons did to the ‘skill-ceiling’.
Think I’m still gonna shelve the soldier for a bit. Sandvich isn’t that good? Thought the ability to fully restore yourself or a teammate made it great if the medic is low/dead.
I still haven’t unlocked the fan but then again I don’t really play scout. Only use him when there are too many snipers or medics on the opposing team. He seems like a lot of fun and the fan dmg/pushback up close is pretty stupid. Hate doing achievement runs.
This is a buncha info to take in…
play huntsman sniper if you’re into getting 1st place on pubs without having to do anything like aiming or applying strategy
what?
Well in 1.5 it was. Hardly played CS after that.
To speak on blutsauger vs. syringe gun:
While I’m not a great TF2 player, I’d say that I’m a great medic (though I hate playing as one). The syringe gun’s usefulness is 100% based on the game type, and player count.
There’s nothing that pisses off people as much as a battle medic. Before anything else, a medic’s job is to keep alive. Second, their duty is to heal. They syringe gun lets medics heal faster, and therefore stay alive longer, and therefore heal more. The blutsauger is only useful if you’re actually planning on shooting people…which you shouldn’t really be doing. When you’re a medic, you should plan on healing people.
The ONLY occasion I use a blutsauger is when I’m in a small (8v8 or less) arena game. The only reason for that is because you’re probably going to end up as the last man standing a few times and the blutsauger will help you grind out a 1v1 or 1v2 situation. Every other game, I use the syringe gun.
I had similar views on medic. Only time I notice the blut showing a definite improvement was against pyro people. Other than that, chances are you’re going to die.
Got my second hat drop today, Stove Pipe sadly. It’s just an upgraded Gibbus. I would have given my left nut for the demo fro
Can you do 2 hats + class token to get a hat from that class? If so, I may try
i have an idea i wanna tell mr.walker a small fun tweak for sniper
how do i propose this?
do i just make a thread on steam forums
I have it…the ultimate hat…the one to top them all…the tower of hats!
sweet
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email sent :3
So…are we gonna blast tonight?
Edit: There’s a chance I’ll be there for only an hour.
I have two TF2 arrangements today.
If you can’t show…no worries.
Maybe I’ll post announcements randomly.
GGs. Kinda fun when we have more than 4 ppl online. Guess I’ll give soldier another shot.
Sorry for the rape Iren, but you probably enjoyed it, so whatever.
imo.
I had this amazing air rocket hit on badlands on I think a pyro. may have been a scout, but whatever it was fucking godlike. I also popped up someone with a rocket and hit them with a shotty which was also pretty good lol.
<3 direct hit.