Tatsunoko Vs Capcom emulated

emulated games aren’t useful to play on in any way?

GGPO ring any bells?

You’ve been drinking too much corporate Kool-Aid. There’s this thing called “fair use”. Taking a CD and shoving into a record player and playing it, despite against it’s original design, is perfectly legal for me to do. If I could shove an old NES cart inside a PS3 and run it, that too is perfectly legal. One is also legally allowed, by law, to make backup copies of sofware and run them in any way, shape, or fashion one deems fit, for one’s own personal use.

It IS perfectly okay so long as you have the original. The concept of it being BS is something that the IDSA started pushing some 10+ years ago, and you sir, have bought into it. Sure, they go by the name ESA these days, but Doug Lowenstein is still at the helm, and it’s still all BS. If you’re too young to know, go google “Dave’s Video Game Classics” and IDSA. That’s where it all really began, and how we got to where we are today. Fair use is critically important to copyright, and I think I need to impress upon you this one last tidbit. Copyright was created with the purpose of ensuring that works WERE NOT PROTECTED AD NASEUM. It was to force works into the public domain after a period of time, so that they would not disappear. Copyright as it is today is an absolute joke.

Yes, I’m ranting. I’m sorry, but you hit a hot button with me. What you just said is just flat out not true. When you buy a game disc, you bought a copy of the game. Not a “license” to play a game, you bought a copy of a game. A “license” means you signed something, and entered into an agreement with the publisher to essentially rent the game from them, and that is not what happened. You own what you bought.

I’m done.

http://dextrose.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=870

not emulated games, just TvC.

GGPO is still fairly limited to old 2d games. i’m assuming theres so much overhead running the gpu and etc, that GGPO wont work with it for the foreseeable future.

what numbski said ^^

I give it 3 years before the average household computer is able to run most, if not all Wii games at playable speeds. Yeah, right now you are able to run 2d games at 100% speeds on an average computer but it’s games like Mario Galaxy that just crap out. It runs but like at 70%. Graphics for that game are also very acid trippy in the emu. If TvC runs fairly well so far hopefully it will see a future on GGPO since there is no online play for the game so far, you’re the best Capcom!!!

-Tha Hindu

Yeah, if performance doesn’t take a hit at this present date with TVC emulated, it would be very useful in sharpening skills against the competition in this game via GGPO.

Too bad Ponder only sets up games that are old/outdated and/or don’t bring capcom and money anymore, or doesn’t take a hit with their income.

yeah, it’s just two gamecube emulators duct taped together.

Eh by the time this was emulated it would probably be an older, import only release.

Also, don’t forget about 2DF which seemingly does not have similar qualms.

RIP Home Recording Act as of this post, apparently. :frowning:

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4535/tatsu3ul7.jpg

I see GL’s gold color tarnishing in that pic. Must be like Fools Gold Lightan or some shit. What are your specs and what type of speeds are you getting?

-Tha Hindu

I got an Intel e4300 overclocked to 2.91 ghz and ATI Radeon x1900xt 512 and 2 gigs ram.

game seems to run well from the demo fights…

What about in game? Haven’t tested?

-Tha Hindu

the game only plays demo fights and title screen. it crashes when u try to access ingame due to missing dvd emulation or something like that.

Your close but still not on the mark. Let me start, by saying that my job deals specifically with intellectual property law, specifically copyright law. I have been here for over three years on top of all the intellectual property law I had in college.

You are correct about being able to make copies of a game and use it for personal use. Same with CDs, books, magazines, paintings, etc. All of these fall under the copyright section of intellectual property. And yes, you can play the game on whatever medium you can get it to play on, whether homemade or otherwise.

However, even if you own the original, it is still technically illeagal to play a rom even if you own the original UNLESS you actually made the copy of the rom yourself. You have the right to copy a CD, game, otherwise and use it for your own personal use. Like buying a CD and making a copy of it for your car, office, and home. But the second you give one of those copies away, you are in violation of copyright law. And the person who takes the copy is also in violation. Just like it is illeagal to buy stolen goods. You can claim you didn’t know, but, ignorance is not a defense.

So with the ROM scenario, if you were to buy TVC from the store, and download the rom from another source, you would own a legal, and illegal copy of the game, because someone else copied their game and gave it to you, and you accepted it putting both of you in violation of copyright law. If you buy a copy of TVC and burn it to disc, rom, whatever, and only use it for personal use, then you would be totally legal.

Keep in mind this is all technical, and in no way am I condeming someone who buys a copy of the game and then gets a rom. But when it comes to intellectual property most people are way off base, and nine times out of ten when someone is speaking about it, it’s from something “they heard somewhere” which usually is not a credible source. The first thing to remember about intellectual property is that it is intangible ideas in a tangible medium. So the law treats them like tangible property, and you have to think about IP like you would think about anything else you own, like a car or otherwise.

The law you’re citing was created basically because magnetic media was unstable. The courts ruled that video games and roms do are not volatile media so the law does not apply to them. It has not been legal to make or copy a rom in the US since 1983, unless it’s unavailable in any other format. You can only legally obtain a rom in the US by purchasing it from the current rights holder. It is NOT legal in the US to copy roms.

Huh? Citation please?

It is quite literally impossible to do anything useful with software without making a copy of it & modifying that copy, which is why the right to do so is protected by statute:

http://law.onecle.com/uscode/17/117.html

Atari, Inc. v. JS&A. (google or wiki it) The courts ruled that storage media which is not subject to electrical failure (ie CD’s, DVD’s, and cartridges) are not applicable under the terms of the archival clause since a backup is protection from physical damage and is not what section 117 was designed to stop. As a result, ROM dumping is illegal in the US.