yes f+4 is a nc but jabs beat it its slow. like around 15 16 frames slow. After the df4,1,1 on the wall the stomp isnt guaranteed, you can tech roll it. Go to practice mode do the wall combo set them to tech and see if the stomp ever lands. The f+4 also wont track tech rollers and if you see someone guess on a 15 16 frame mid near the wall from standing good luck with that. Also after doing the f4 a few times on adonis i have been punished with jabs afterwards. I could have been getting hosed but hey if it happens more than once I take note of it.
Now I said he has better wall carry than king. But you cant talk about mixing people up by going into his stance. After going into his stance he can be jabbed out of anything. It works if you have someone guessing but so does anything else in the game. Most people now are guessing because they dont know what he can and cant do. And what frames are you talking about he doesnt get plus frame on anything on block. Other than b3 or uf 1 which dont track.
Um on the full crouch thing kazuya, drag, king, armor king, , ganny, , him, bear, jack, anna, nina, asuka, paul, raven and law, steve, hei, roger, fat bob, lei, wang, bruce, lee, jules, jack, leo, yoshi have everything he has from FC except the tackle which im surprise you even mentioned since all he gets is punches. And some of them I mentioned have a FC throw which he doesnt have.
As far as wall pressure kings titty bash gives him plus one its mid and it track its also around 13 to 14 frame he also have b1, f3, both punches mix ups, d1,2 wall splat on ch. and his throw game including a high wall splating throw. Im not saying miguel wall pressure isnt good but its not kings. Also everything I mentioned tracks along the wall.
Now miguel has the standard 1,2, and both punches throw and they all leave him in a good position, but king has all that and something miguel doesnt have a smaller throw break windows on some of his throws. And two throws that wall splat. One with his back to the wall and one with him facing the wall. He also has crouch throws, ground throws, a wall grab and a full crouch throw. He has the chain throw thing too but I wasnt even thinking of that. But man are you really going to say im talking stupid when your telling me the signature throw character in the game doesnt have the better throw game than miguel really?
Now I never said im the best if thats your way of trying to discrediting me rather than looking at what I posted so be it. But I posted the combo you can try it yourself I never said he was a bad player or stupid, but. If someone tells me you cant do 1 then 2 in a combo but I go to practice mode and do it. Then they re wrong it doesnt matter who it is. He said bruce cant get the down both kicks on his wall carry and he can. All you have to do is stop the wall carry just shy of the wall and use something to force them to the wall like his 33 or 1 then 2 then dash up and do the down both kicks after they wall splat and then do your wall combo normally.
But your obviously not reading what im posting so instead of wasting my time, I will agree to disagree with you you think lee is better than bruce and that miguel is better than king.