Taking Sagat to the next level

It kinda is unfortunately. Not just the timing, but the spacing as well. Some character’s you kinda gotta be around their knees when you start the TK other characters you gotta be a little closer to the feet.

Plus it’s easier to do vs some then others.

Mad easy to do vs Blanka, but WAY harder to do vs Guile.

Death by nines I dunno how you did this to Gief and Abel. Are you sure you tk crossed them up?

Cammy can be crossed up with tiger knee …

No, she can’t be. You can’t go over her body with the tk at all.

Remember we are using MK Tiger Knee.

We aren’t looking at the EX Knee and I think cross-up EX knee works a bit different. Doesn’t matter which way you are blocking.

mmm, el doesn’t autoblock only block the second hit but will allow you do the first hit? but i haven’t spend much time in training room so i could be wrong and also what if you successfully do a tiger knee cross up and instead of doing just tiger uppercut what if you do the ex version since it juggles then fadc, f+hk, ultra?

First hit of EX TU wouldn’t juggle only the following hits and then Sagat is off the ground.

Besides that’s alot of meter.

but if the ex tiger uppercut can connect you can always follow up with ultra right? and it only uses 1 meter bar?

oh when you did it succesfully did the opponent fly towards you or away from you?

sorry if i’m not making any sense as i don’t use sagat

You can connect ultra after the EX TU, but that timing is tight as balls.

Plus after scaling I think you would be better off with raw Ultra.

cammy CAN get crossed up by tiger knee; until now i’ve only seen characters that can get hit by either both knees or none at all.

i’ll post the list as soon as i can test the last 10 characters (unless someone else does that before).

i just hope people won’t claim false positives like with ex TU to ultra…

p.s. if you want to cross over cammy’s body without hitting, the only way seems to be kara knee… but the kara is not necessary for the crossup

Really? Whenever I try to do it Sagat won’t go over her body.

Do you know the exact timing of it?

I never thought of kara knee, but that’s really cool and adds a new layer to this.

I love it.

Double post but it’s my thread so I don’t give a damn.

Did more testing on Cammy.

You are correct.

She CAN be cross-up up but the timing is wierd as hell, and you have to catch her during the 2 frames that she is standing after her wake-up.

Anyway, guys make sure when you test it you use the record feature and record yourselves crouching blocking then haven the CPU play it back. Alot of the time if you just set the CPU to auto-block it seems like you can’t cross-up with TK when you really can.

I haven’t tried testing the cross up TK in training mode yet but I was wondering, do you just sweep them so they wake up into the crouch block via the record feature? I’ll try to test this on some more characters soon, been a bit busy with work/school.

Just did a match up for viper in the match up thread. check it out.

can somebody explain to me what’s so good about cross up? just adding confusion to a match? because i would assume that they are blocking most attacks anyways given that they are coming out of a knock down?

You cant counter a properly timed crossup after a knockdown in anyway whatsoever besides blocking.

This leads to safe block strings, tick throws, hit confirming, pushback combos. It basically allows you to get in and apply pressure without any risk. Plus it confuses the opponent in direction of blocking.

And dont assume that the opponent will always be blocking after a knockdown. TU FADC.

Sagat’s crossup sucks ass btw. you need it to hit at the very latest for c.lk to connect. If your gonna use it then followup with c.lp xx TU FADC.

Cuz they gotta block the other way.

So cross-up = mix-ups and a chance for more damage while putting yourself at very little risk.

crossup TK (both MK and EX) works on: cammy, fuerte, akuma, sim, chun , guile, sakura, ryu, viper, blanka, gen.

i could crossup only with the MK version: ken and dan.

can’t be crossed up: sagat, zangief, boxer, rufus, dict, abel, honda, feilong, gouken, seth, claw, rose.

the test was made vs the standard grounded position (head away from the opponent, like after a sweep or most juggles). the getup from the other position has different properties.

Here’s how:

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and

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holy shit dude hahahahahah

Close thread :rofl:

reminds me of some of the posters in this thread. (including me :sad:)

Good to know, thanks man.