T.hawk!!! Yes!!!

[gridman]

the biggest difference between gief and hawk was that hawk was a fucking bad ass and didnt need two hands to break your neck into the ground.

edit rsx: and knock down

[RagingStormX]

the biggest difference between gief and hawk was that hawk was a fucking bad ass and didnt need two hands to break your neck into the ground.

edit rsx: and knock down

Maybe. If it bounces back like ST and they can quick get up, then there is no point. I’d rather it be like HDR except you can combo after. If it doesn’t allow techs, knockdown version for sure.

[SaikyoStudent]

Contrary to many people, I like T.Hawk’s character design a lot. So much so that I will definitely give him a trial as a main once SSF4 comes out.

The only problem is, I cant do the 360 motions with the fighting pad consistently. If the input required for the 360 motion was given a lot more leniency, it could help with variation during the online fights rather than only meeting Ryus, Akumas and Kens with the occasional Geif.

its pretty lenient in sf4, dude. Just do:
:l::db::d::df::r::uf::p:
OR
:r::df::d::db::l::ub::p:

The trick is to do the command with jump as the last input, so the punch command cancels it out before you actually jump.

[Sablicious]

Alex Valle would laugh at your dumbass. Play to win you scrub moron. Play the winning move, why wouldn’t you? it may look boring, but winning is not[…]

For the feeble-minded scrub, yes. For those who play for a deeper appreciation of skill, mashing LP ‘just curz it works’ is what it is – a pathetic waste of one’s life. (*Fact - Wiki)

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[vertoxz]

So ummm I guess this is the T Hawk thread?

Anyway I don’t plan on using him or anything, but I had an idea when I was watching a video of his gameplay, and I thought to myself…hmmm if you’re about 2 or 3 characters distance away from your opponent you could do his LP horizontal dash (if there are different speed/ranges for his dash) and than buffer the 720 motion and ultra him as you’re recovering?

Kind of like some Giefs do lp banishing flat t close the distance and than spd/ultra?

Anybody with me?

[Bodhisattva]

He will kick ass…definetly…hell yes…

[Gumpool]

t-hawk will be the new flowchart ken

can’t wait till the flowchart comes up

[SimpleKiss]

For the feeble-minded scrub, yes. For those who play for a deeper appreciation of skill, mashing LP ‘just curz it works’ is what it is – a pathetic waste of one’s life. (*Fact - Wiki)

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Someone ban this fucking guy.

[JigglyNorris]

Maybe. If it bounces back like ST and they can quick get up, then there is no point. I’d rather it be like HDR except you can combo after. If it doesn’t allow techs, knockdown version for sure.

Did you guys notice how fast that thing came out?

[Super_Sonic]

Wow, I’m afraid T. Hawk just MIGHT turn out to be overpowered. Dive knocks down, comes out really fast, looks safe on block, his Ultra does enormous damage, his normals do great damage, he has lots of life, he looks faster than Zangief who is a big threat already, he has a DP (the EX version of which can be followed up with an EX Dive)… I’m still gonna main him, but I don’t want anyone calling me “cheap” for using him. I hope they don’t make him so noob-friendly and strong so as for anyone to play as him without any effort (i.e. Ryu).

[Tofu_Warrior]

His jump is slow as all hell. That’s going to hurt him a lot.

[RagingStormX]

But Condor is fast as hell, and we havent seen footage of it when blocked, but at least we know it knocks down.

[Rioting_Soul]

Did yall see that small, slow ass forward dash? It looks like the only reason he has dash is so he can cancel out of focus. Walking forward looks leagues better for forward movement. Still, that’s tolerable with all the other stuff he has.

[JigglyNorris]

He looks pretty damn fast already. A slow dash is no biggy.

[Dandy_J]

Wow, I’m afraid T. Hawk just MIGHT turn out to be overpowered. Dive knocks down, comes out really fast, looks safe on block

really? in the vid it looks super duper punishable, way more so than it is in st

But Condor is fast as hell, and we havent seen footage of it when blocked, but at least we know it knocks down.

at 2:24 here it hits: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-super-street/57019 it could be diff on block, but if it dos the same thing as it does on hit, it will be very punishable

[Effull_Bao]

If anything, I think the dive will end up like Blanka’s horizontal ball. People are just going to find new ways to punish it, even if it seems safe.

Of course I don’t think it’s a terribly big deal since T. Hawk’s dive was punishable in ST but people still found ways to use it.

[RagingStormX]

really? in the vid it looks super duper punishable, way more so than it is in st

at 2:24 here it hits: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-super-street/57019 it could be diff on block, but if it dos the same thing as it does on hit, it will be very punishable

Yeah I know, and it will be useless normally is it can be focused. Focus then let it hit or dash out to combo :/. If it breaks armor then we golden. Im hoping he bounces alot farther on block. If the recovery is good on whiff we gonna have some nice wake up mind games

[gridman]

yeah now that i think about it, if condor dive DOESNT break armor, t.hawk will be bottom tier. oh man, it looks really punishable.

anyone else notice that the ex dp didnt do that little dive away thing it did in the first video we all saw? maybe he can do some version of the dive (there looks to be a few, i know i saw a horizontal one in that first video) to get away at the cost of another ex bar. similar to bisons devil reverse

also - i think only the people who actually struggled with hawk in ST will actually be willing to play him in 4. i dont expect to see any flood of hawks or anything. people will stick to gief (at low levels) because of lariat. guaranteed there will be like 4 or 5 people seriously playing hawk

[MAGUS1234]

useless in some areas, but the dive crossed up in the vid thats neat, also you have to think its main application is going to be to punish fb’s and put you next to them it has a lot more range than ex hand so maybe it can give thawk a leg up in that area.

[Monte]

something someone translated from an interview:

Here’s my translation of the Famitsu article.

**[Ono’s comment: secrets behind the new characters, part 2]
**Finally, we’ve been able to include the two characters we had to leave out last time, and with that the characters from the SF2 series are all accounted for. But actually, when we released SF4, people seemed to be a lot less disappointed than I had expected. Even though we at Capcom were bracing ourselves for comments like “Why the hell aren’t those two in the game!?” (laughs). But when you see them in motion, they are both really fun characters. When using Dee Jay, people aren’t used to the way he moves, so it’s pretty easy to win. You know like, “that sliding kick is broken!”. Dee Jay and T.Hawk were the most technical characters in SF2, so their gameplay will be very deep this time around as well. They are tricky and complicated characters, so I think of them as characters for advanced players who are well accustomed to the previous game. I think this is the perfect timing for these two to join the fray. Although it wasn’t really planned like this (laughs).