If you do forward j.lp at point blank range you can actually make the condor dive crossup. The timing is very difficult and it’s probably character specific but damn that is one sneaky gimmick.
Is Seth’s Ultra I not a projectile? My EX Condor Dive didn’t penetrate it. I beat that Seth, but that match really pissed me off.
Especially since I have barely landed Ultra II all day. Its whiffing worse than Super 
I believe it is, but he is invincible for a really long time and it’s active for a long time too. So CS probably runs out of invincible frames before he does. Similar to exCD losin to Seth U2.
EX Condor Dive actually beats Seths Ultra 2 but not that way you think. If you EX Conder Dive in reaction to seths Ultra 2 you will land behind him, get sucked in and not get hit by the tornatdo…its a weird animation
poor grammar its late…but I have been meaning to post about this
That’s not what is meant by a move beating another move. And the will only work at very specific position on the screen. Most of the time Seth will activate and exCDive will go about 3/4 of the way through towards Seth and run out of invincibility and lose. Even what you describe is an escape since Seth takes no direct damage from the EXCDive. Think of it like Rog exHB and Ryu exDP go through each other but Rog recovers faster (in Super) so he can punish with sweep.
I figured this would be a good place to put this, since I have no idea what happened and all my attempts to replicate it have met with failure.
The best I can do right now is time the EX 360 so he goes through me. This kind of thing happen to anyone else?
Yeah, that’s really hard to time Brosidon but basically what happens is that EX SPD comes out in 4 frames. The first 3 frames are hit invincible which allowed for Vega’s U1 to whiff on you and you grabbed him as he touched the floor. This technique of using ex spd to make moves whiff is surpisingly powerful in certain matchups. For instance, against Akuma, when Akuma does a demon palm on thawk’s wakeup. Doing the EX SPD will make a demon palm whiff if it’s meaty…ON TOP of that…Whiffing ex spd will cause akuma’s OS Raging Demon to not come out and he’ll get grabbed…Keep in mind that this only works when you he gives you less than a 3 frame opening or else you’ll just eat the palm.
Yeah… Holy shit… Never knew that. That means there is a SPLIT ammount of frames that Vega is on the ground…never knewthat
I came.
I tested this out in training mode. This will only occur when vega does U1 when he is cornered because the angle of the ultra “slash”" portion is lowered towards the ground…he lands a little bit earlier than normal… the ex spd invuln makes the last few frames of the “slash” whiff, immediately grounding vega. Vega is always grounded when he whiffs his ultra so it’s not like it’s anything too new. As far as applications go, i think it will only work in the situation in which brosidon showed us: when a vega that is in the corner of the screen ( not necessarily the stage) tries to desperation ultra chip you to death.
wait… You can command grab Vega out of his Ultra???
Joe… How many frames is he grounded for?
Same thing can happen with Adon’s Jaggar toof.
i discovered a new trick with the mp spd today, i dunno if you guys know
do a mp spd
walk a little bit foward, the forward jump, at the peak of the jump condor dive, it will crossup the oponnent, very good no one knows about that lol they always eat the dive
I use a dash because I think it makes people more likely to react with a back dash (which the dive punishes). It also makes it a little less telegraphed because the dive is executed lower.
You can always just strong Typhoon, fierce Tomahawk Buster and then deal with the back dash from there (like close roundhouse, dash forward or ex spire). Or strong Typhoon, fierce Spire. Pretty sure Hawk is fucked if they block a cross-up Condor Dive.
The point isn’t that it punishes the back dash it’s that it presents them with a faulty option.
Ah, I see.
Random basic OS for messing up Honda’s with itchy reversal trigger fingers. STEAL THIS.
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I found something interesting.
All of you knows the trick which is Focus Level 2 and 3 + Unscaled Ultra 2.
But, do you know that in some way, Ultra 2 is scaled with Focus Attack ?
I think it’s because of the frame when U2 connect, but i’m not sure.
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Found something today, it is very shenanigany and not very useful. and will most likely get you killed if you use it more than once haha. But if you do j.mp while jumping backwards on giefs wakeup you will hit him if he’s standing. Should work on sagat too. Don’t know if it hits crouching characters, too lazy to test.