Supreme Court Legalizes Gay Marriage

[odin]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Zaltacon also thinks creationism is a legit science. That should tell you everything. Fundie bigots make all these arguments when really they should just use the bible. But they can’t because the bible is bullshit lol.

Besides if they believe in the bible, well they’d be all for gay marriage and abortion. Because it will bring down the wrath of God, thus ushering in the final battle at Armageddon when Jesus returns and they become the bride of Christ, ready to get reamed by the holy trinity justice cock.

That’s right fundies. Support these abominations so that Jesus returns sooner. Kthxdie

I’ve always been irritated by fellow Christians who lose their shit because the world chooses immoral behavior and brands anyone bigots who disagree with such behavior and that it shouldn’t be encouraged by the government, like the Bible didn’t already say it would happen. So no, your argument is not lost on me. I wrote a theology term paper on exactly that.

And do I believe homosexuality to be immoral? Yes, but so is a lot of stuff, so who am I to throw stones?

Do I support the US’s decision? Nope. Do I believe it creates a slippery slope? Yep. Was I not expecting it and thus am outraged? Nope, not in the least.

If I believe inter-racial marriage to be immoral, do think of me as a bad person?

[Missing_Person]

damn. this thread is nuts. fallacies all over the place, mostly ad hominems but it’s like the gay marriage opposition doesn’t realize that ‘slippery slope’ is a fallacy ie an argument that isn’t valid (not true even if its premises are true).

the actual logic in here is weak as fuck.

This sort of thing in practice in Canada begs to differ.

[odin]

damn. this thread is nuts. fallacies all over the place, mostly ad hominems but it’s like the gay marriage opposition doesn’t realize that ‘slippery slope’ is a fallacy ie an argument that isn’t valid (not true even if its premises are true).

the actual logic in here is weak as fuck.

This sort of thing in practice in Canada begs to differ.

What a bunch of garbage.
She tries SO HORD to define gender roles and “natural parentage” when those are all man-made things.

Bitch is dumb.

[Doofenshmirtz]

Same sex marriage has been legal in other places for a while now so “you may now kiss the bride” being changed to whatever else isnt going to be an issue. Tbh I think even straight weddings sometimes have different variations of it

Also religion isnt the biggest obstacle its just ignorance, there are so many churches and religious organizations that are supportive of the lgbt community hell there are even gay and lesbian pastors but almost anyone can get ordained these days so if a couple didnt want to go to a courthouse or a church but wanted a big ceremony then theres other ways they could go about it

[Missing_Person]

damn. this thread is nuts. fallacies all over the place, mostly ad hominems but it’s like the gay marriage opposition doesn’t realize that ‘slippery slope’ is a fallacy ie an argument that isn’t valid (not true even if its premises are true).

the actual logic in here is weak as fuck.

This sort of thing in practice in Canada begs to differ.

What a bunch of garbage.
She tries SO HORD to define gender roles and “natural parentage” when those are all man-made things.

Bitch is dumb.

Fatherless Children Statistics and Other Data on Fatherhood | NFI

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/01/opinion/l-children-without-mothers-are-at-special-risk-954179.html

And since when are gender roles manmade constructs? How many species rely on the mother for nurturing that blow that whole theory out of the water?

GTFO.

[Missing_Person]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Zaltacon also thinks creationism is a legit science. That should tell you everything. Fundie bigots make all these arguments when really they should just use the bible. But they can’t because the bible is bullshit lol.

Besides if they believe in the bible, well they’d be all for gay marriage and abortion. Because it will bring down the wrath of God, thus ushering in the final battle at Armageddon when Jesus returns and they become the bride of Christ, ready to get reamed by the holy trinity justice cock.

That’s right fundies. Support these abominations so that Jesus returns sooner. Kthxdie

I’ve always been irritated by fellow Christians who lose their shit because the world chooses immoral behavior and brands anyone bigots who disagree with such behavior and that it shouldn’t be encouraged by the government, like the Bible didn’t already say it would happen. So no, your argument is not lost on me. I wrote a theology term paper on exactly that.

And do I believe homosexuality to be immoral? Yes, but so is a lot of stuff, so who am I to throw stones?

Do I support the US’s decision? Nope. Do I believe it creates a slippery slope? Yep. Was I not expecting it and thus am outraged? Nope, not in the least.

If I believe inter-racial marriage to be immoral, do think of me as a bad person?

Apples and oranges.

[Raz0r]

People also seem to willfully neglect that 35 or so states already had same-sex marriage legal. It was those backward ass states trying to make the shit illegal that caused this all to happen.

[odin]

damn. this thread is nuts. fallacies all over the place, mostly ad hominems but it’s like the gay marriage opposition doesn’t realize that ‘slippery slope’ is a fallacy ie an argument that isn’t valid (not true even if its premises are true).

the actual logic in here is weak as fuck.

This sort of thing in practice in Canada begs to differ.

What a bunch of garbage.
She tries SO HORD to define gender roles and “natural parentage” when those are all man-made things.

Bitch is dumb.

http://www.fatherhood.org/father-absence-statistics

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/01/opinion/l-children-without-mothers-are-at-special-risk-954179.html

And since when are gender roles manmade constructs? How many species rely on the mother for nurturing that blow that whole theory out of the water?

GTFO.

Single parenting =/= 2 gay parents.

GTFO

[Kromo]

Great. Now I can’t even walk outside without being pelted with the flaming corpses of angels.

[Exodus_1]

All I’m seeing is people disagreeing with Zatalcon by disparaging Christianity, which kinda proves his point.

I disagree with him, and the general opposition, because I don’t think it’s just/civil/correct/moral/whatever_other_word to deny people rights for something beyond their control and they aren’t hurting other people by exercising their right.

How’s that?

[odin]

All I’m seeing is people disagreeing with Zatalcon by disparaging Christianity, which kinda proves his point.

I disagree with him, and the general opposition, because I don’t think it’s just/civil/correct/moral/whatever_other_word to deny people rights for something beyond their control and they aren’t hurting other people by exercising their right.

How’s that?

The word of God is not to be trifled with.
If His word hurts others, then that is His will.
It is part of His grace, glory and eternal plan for humanity.
By going against His will, you will face His judgment when it comes.

How’s that?

[Exodus_1]

Haha I guess my argument would be, “I don’t believe in a retribution filled afterlife.”

[LobosJordan]

I suspect more lesbos will be coming out as opposed to more gay dudes in the future. And not the “i kiss a girl in a club” type lesbo. Nah, I’m talking butch hair, i hate men, armpit hair lesbos. Otherwise known as DYYYYYYYYKES.

lol in all seriousness, this decision is welcomed by me, no reason to discriminate against these people who just want to love their significant other. Oh and one more thing, the bible is a work of fiction and religion is a sham. Worship the multitude of demons instead and talk to them via Ouija boards. Much more fulfilling.

666

[Manx]

Every social reform comes with consequences, so this is a moot issue to bring up as well as a fallacious one. Just because there will be consequences, even some negative ones, doesn’t mean that it is not worth doing. We will have to rethink and adapt in order to make it accommodate as many people as possible, which is the way we have done things all along. To me, it definitely sounds like a better solution than simply trying to leave things as they already are and just hope they get worked out. That has rarely worked.

Why is it a “must” that something be done?

The society that we live in now, the societies that mankind has lived with through several millenia have “worked” fine without same sex marriage.

The only difference is that here and now, we’re living in a period where same sex marriage has been successfully lobbied for. But a surge of political will doesn’t suddenly make something right or better for society. It certainty does make the decision a somewhat democratic one, but the Supreme Court wasn’t created to be an arbiter of the will of the people.

But back to my point. People should realise that this is going to be a huge ass social experiment. I agree that its a done deal and there’s no point arguing whether it should’ve happened now, but to believe that “progress has been made” and we can all go home happy that we’re on “the right side of history” is very, very naive.

America, a very powerful and influential lobby latching onto the right political winds has changed your society. Possibly for the better, but also possibly for the worst. Be aware of that.

That’s all I’m saying.

Way too busy to get on this now, but I will get on it later tonight.

Also, you completely ignored what I said about your “social experiment” statement. How does that make it something that should be done? Isn’t every considerable social change a social experiment? The words you’re saying have no actual weight. You’re just appealing to fear of the unknown.

But you’re right about one thing though. It is a done deal now. So we’re going to have to figure it out and move along. This is what a democracy means. After all, I still have to live in this country after Citizens United and I don’t agree with that.

Tough titty.

[odin]

Haha I guess my argument would be, “I don’t believe in a retribution filled afterlife.”

Then prepare for an eternity of hellfire and brimstone. I will pray that you will be saved.
God is love.

[Pertho]

Anthropologist here:

We don’t get to do a lot of “social experiments” because most of them would be deemed unethical. At least the good ones. Blame Stanford.

[crucades]

As long as they dont get to adopt kids its all good, I mean am all for people finding happiness and all that bullshit but just cause they fucked up doesnt give em the right to fuck up others.

[Exodus_1]

We don’t get to do a lot of “social experiments” because most of them would be deemed unethical.

Doesn’t stop facebook.

[odin]

As long as they dont get to adopt kids its all good, I mean am all for people finding happiness and all that bullshit but just cause they fucked up doesnt give em the right to fuck up others.

Poe?

[Don_Barracuda]

Congratulations @raz0r and @dab00g

So I’m not the only one that thinks dab00g over compensates.

I’ll show my support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzREqEHMM0