Super Street Fighter II Turbo, in the house

http://www.putfile.com/nohoho

I uploaded that YSB Omake file – it’s all the way at the bottom. It’s a collection of single round selections from an earlier starcup, I think. The highlight as far as I’m concerned is the blue zangief player, Kouchou. Check out the round from kouchou vs. muteki at the end of “part 2.”

I also put a shootingD vs pony match, one of the mattsun movies from master secret cup and a recent popy clip up there.

other than jumpsuit, shirts, nki

who has actually been in a tournament??

I ask this not as a diss but as to why do you guys watch the video’s so much of japanese play?? I cant… cause in every tournament reaction and timing is a bitch… its more than trying to mimic super top tier play…

just a question cause i never go the drift of watching videos like its a pre game tape before a football game. dont take this wrong…but i just want to know how many of you actually been in the tournament enviornment…

oh an please make sure IF xbox360 does the little capcom thing that you guys join up so we can play unless you guys actually travel…

i have and i got owned by gian :sad:

Don’t mess with Muteki, dude’s one angry motherfucker.

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8299/littleangrymuteki7ce.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5955/mediumangrymuteki1xa.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7053/bigangrymuteki4me.jpg

Muteki’s kinda cute. I’d do him over Aniken any day.

Hi, i just started playing Fei-Long and need some tips about:

How to combo the rekkas------ I never get it, and always miss the second or the third.
Good pokes / situations to use them------------------ my whole game is cr. Fierce :frowning:
The “almost a 360” kick ---------- situations to use this, gimmicks and how to do it consistent!
Presure Strings-------- Most commons /usefuls.
Guile------ how the hell i do beat him?

Thanks in advance

Is there a way to save the files from putfile to the hard drive ?

Was gonna ask you the same question, seeing as u introduced me to that amazing downthemall.

U can do it, but I wish there was an easier way. Anyone know one?

This is how I do it using mozilla: Click on the movie link then on the next page press stop before the video starts loading. Now right-click (it’s disabled, but keep pressing both mouse buttons, the context menu will appear eventually). Then go to view page info. Now click the fourth tab, media. Scroll down in that window 'til u come to an object of type ‘embed’, click once and save as.

Thanks N-trade, very nice trick :tup:

This should be obvious but: watching high level play, japanese or not, is very entertaining. This is the only way to see the highest level of play outside of living and playing in japan, which none of us do. Vids are highly informative too. However, no one watches a vid believing it’ll increase their timing or reaction speed. Everyone knows that u need to consistently play good comp to become better. Nobody watches these vids believing they’ll be the next Daigo if they mimic them.

Hopefully that’s sorted out ur confusion. What has being in a tournament got do with anything? Why the insecurity? Why troll in this great thread? Alas, I do not know : (

I’ve been to a couple big tournaments, and the videos posted here don’t have a lot to do with that. I think they do give you some good guidelines, though, especially in terms of what moves each character uses primarily and what zones are good and bad for each character. Outside of that, though, they are also like displays of art; people don’t paint and then throw it away, though some should consider that…

sorry trade but im not trolling…

next ive posted before an people who know me WITHIN the tournament scene asked me to just keep an eye on the tread an add my tidbit here n there when things are not being answered

then insecurity…nah…ive played the best and made a name for myself within the south an east coast…i only asked because I always get those that i see TRYING TO MIMIC what they see on a video from the japanese an end up getting their asses handed to them. im not knockin the level of play…just that majority of cases ive delt with cats try to mimic an not use tatical brain power an skill…its all flash to em.

I only asked about tournament wise cause just like above i want to know has those video helped you honestly??? everyone i play or played me (from mid level to top tier level) after a match its discussion on wits an strats that make sense an whats comfortable for you…

so in essense trade…is it entertainment or does it help you??? cause i [opinion] don’t see it helping you get better… simple question from someone thats been on the scene for a hot minute [not tootin my horn or braggin] an doesnt get the jist of it…

hope that helped you

Koop

Videos are a tools, and like all tools they can be used wisely or stupidly. Copying what you see in videos without understanding it is obviously dumb.

I think that videos are a great source of information. You can learn all kinds of things from them : combos, tricks, strategies, bugs… but watching them alone will not make anyone good. Just like reading a book on Kung Fu isn’t going to make you a Kung Fu master.

Hey Jesse: I wouldn’t say the same thing about Fei. Even though Fei often gets lumped in the bottom tier (along with Cammy), it’s amazing how fast all his bad matchups turn into wins when he gets in your face. I know what Fei’s plan is. I don’t know what Cammy’s plan is…and I couldn’t recommend playing a character with no plan. Maybe someone can come in here and make a case for Cammy.

You hear that Mike Creque? Cammy sucks!

Thanks… :tup: appreciate the opinion

-ntrade - dont take that post wrong…i was answering your questions like the ones i had…

-jms: ol mike is retired somewhere with his woman…i really dont think cammy is on his mind right now…though i wont be suprised if he does pop up an state his defense…

haha, thanks Koop. I’ll try to rile him up. Check your PMs!

Using multiple button presses helps. Instead of using only your index or middle finger for the second and third rekkas try using both in a super fast (piano style) double tap.

There is some FeiLong wisdom earlier in this thread, if I remember correctly.
a) NKI discussed the standing fierce -> chicken kick (db, d, dt, ut + k) corner trap. I think he was talking specifically about how Chun Li and others can escape the trap but I’m certain you’ll find the info useful.

b) Jumpsuit, I think, talked a little about doing safe (fierce jab jab, innit?) blocked Rekkas – spacing, timing, etc. Maybe he’ll hit you with some vs. guile tips heh.

Oh the short flame kick/throw guessing game can be fucking deadly.

Oh no you didn’t!

Well…actually…she does kind of suck :frowning: But I long ago accepted that, and that didn’t really stop me from playing her because I enjoyed it.

If you’re going to play Cammy, get used to a few things:

a) Walking back and forth. A lot. Cammy has really quick walking speed, pretty good normals on the ground in standing fwd, crouching fwd, standing fierce and and close standing strong. You’re going to need every one of those to out poke your opponents. Her close standing strong, for example, is great anti-air, and gives a bit of a guessing game as you can walk under them for attacks on the other side.

b) Learn the ranges of your cannon drills. You can use it to poke, you can use it to punish whiffed attacks, but you have to know what range you can use it safely from. The short version is the one you’ll probably use the most since it’s effective range is just outside of Cammy’s ideal range (for most fights).

c) Using jump strong. One of the most oddly useful normals in the game, it will give you a safe jump in against a lot of characters. Won’t help you beat Honda, but those are the breaks.

d) How to use the Hooligan. I’m painfully guilty of overusing this move, but it’s the main reason I started playing Cammy. I love it, but it can (and has), cost me plenty of matches because I was way too predictable with it. I use it after blocked strings, blocked pokes, after blocked cannon drills, and sometimes on the opposite side of the screen for no reason other than to build some meter.

e) Learn to crossup with short. It’s an easy thing to do against the fat characters like Sim, Guile and Fei, and leads to low strong, standing fierce xx cannon drill.

f) Losing. Inserted here only to pre-empt smartasses who would quote my post and add it in for me afterward, with useful forum lingo like “u frgot losing lol”

Right you are Koop, right you are! PM me sometime bro, I’m living in NOVA now.

Hey man, what’s up with Chris Li? Told me a couple of years back you guys were living close by and I should come down to DC area to play you guys.

Its all in the rhythm. Master getting them down in practice mode. You dont have to do them super fast…just do them in a smooth 123 rhythm and they will all connect. Practice until it becomes second nature

Cr. fierce is a great poke but it leaves you open. Low strong is good but it can be blocked high and low if I recall correctly. Fierce rekka punch from max distance is a great poke and it does chip damage. You can usually do one and stop and get away with it because you are still safe to block. Do 2 of them thats where it starts to get tricky. You wanna stay within the max range of Fei’s fierce rekka punches…that is his best zone for offense. Anywhere outside of that and you are nothing more than a mini e honda(meaning you have all of his weaknesses for getting in to do damage). Use regular moves as pokes if you like, but my main poke are the rekka punches. Learn that first before moving onto the other trix.

Well, like I said before…PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. Its pretty much a yoga flame motion(HCF+Fwd flip)…its very similar to a tiger knee motion. There are so many ways to use this kick its kinda crazy. Its a great combo starter because you can connect standing fierce after the 3 hit…sometimes you can just connect 2 of the hits from the kick and still combo. It crosses up if you can time it right. It juggles. It has funny start up animation properties(invincibility) and has even crazier priorities in the air. You can try mastering 2 in 1’ing the kick off of feis regular close punches but its risky… Using Fei period is risky because hes a brawler fighter. Much like Gief, Honda and anyone without a projectile. There is nothing Fei has that is 100 percent like Ryu and Ken. You have to get a feel for your opponent and guage their confidence. If you see that they fall victim to meaty attacks then exploit it. If you get reversed left and right then you will have to back off and try another way. I focus all of my game around my opponents self confidence because I am betting that they will fuck up and pay dearly for one mistake vs me eating a reversal. Its a risk but the payoffs can be huge.

This is one of my favorite fights. A smart guile can almost ALWAYS keep fei away with booms and trading hits…and again this is where staying just outside his low fwd kicks range(aka max rekka punch range). If you are quick enough you can punish guile for missed low fwd kicks. Take it from me, you will eat alot of low kicks and alot of booms so be on your guard. Low fierce works great because it can counter guiles low attacks cleanly most of the time. Your best bet is to not let guile breathe and once you are inside use tick throws…bait him into missing his reversal flash kicks and punish him with big damage rekka combos…just dont let him breath because once he pushes you back out its back to square one again and you have to get back in to do damage.

Many players love to watch and mimic other players strats. Take bites and leave the rest. Thats fine but just be sure to come up with your own mix of strats. You can learn someones strats off of a video but nothing is going to teach you more than taking your beatings and learning from your mistakes.