Super Street Fighter II Turbo, in the house

[SaveFighting]

I bet NKI had the Japanese Girls screaming all night long when he was in Japan.

Graham since you are a boxer player I was going to ask you do you know exactly how many second one needs to charge the turn punch for each level.

[felineki]

@NKI

In one of your videos:

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You do a super with Akuma how was this done? Did you use a hacked file or can one pull off the raging demon in the game. I never picked Akuma in ST or AE so it is the reason I’m asking. Also, was the video in any way tool assisted?

Akuma’s super was in the Dreamcast version of ST. It had 3 playable versions of Akuma: regular, which was like the arcade, Shin, which was like the CPU (double air fireballs and such), and Ten, which was like the CPU but with the super as well. IIRC, he took quite a while to get meter.

[Shirts]

well I’m discussing it because it’s the closest thing I have to ST

oh shit, are you kidding me? I thought the thread title was hyper street fighter 2 in the house. I must be fucking stupid or something.

would you like to elaborate? EDIT: forget that, don’t bother. I don’t want to mess this thread up.

I’m guessing you’re thinking what I said was ridiculus and would never happen in ST. It’s not exactly the same I grant you but it’s not so different. I willing to bet if this happens in AE it will happen in ST.

I am not even referring to your post.

[Graham]

Graham since you are a boxer player I was going to ask you do you know exactly how many second one needs to charge the turn punch for each level.

I know the first 4 roughly, and the last few. In my strat guide i got a list if you really need that info. But i dont count in my head usually, i just look at the the timer if im watching for big hits like 5-final.

[System_1]

I am not even referring to your post.

Yep. Just hating on AE because it makes winning harder. I agree that CE Bison is a scrubs dream but so is Chun in 3s, Blanka in CvS2 etc. It’s good to have a character that separates the men from the boys.

Oops. You’re probably losing a lot to him eh?

AE is the best old school game we have. If anything is too much bs, after Evo2k6 we can adjust the rules for future events. Now there are more choices and more match ups to know. Some matches will be super-less. Only straight play without a bunch of crutches. I LOVE it!

Don’t hate. We can always play ST on the side and Evo could’ve been really weak and removed old school play altogether!!!

[SaveFighting]

I know the first 4 roughly, and the last few. In my strat guide i got a list if you really need that info. But i dont count in my head usually, i just look at the the timer if im watching for big hits like 5-final.

I just wanted to compare it with the rough test data that I came up with.

Using the in game clock here are the times I got.

1 = 1 second

2 = 4 seconds

3 = 7 seconds

4 = 13 seconds

5 = 24 seconds

6 = 36 seconds

7 = 46 seconds

Final = 56 seconds

[Khiempossible]

Yep. Just hating on AE because it makes winning harder. I agree that CE Bison is a scrubs dream but so is Chun in 3s, Blanka in CvS2 etc. It’s good to have a character that separates the men from the boys.

Oops. You’re probably losing a lot to him eh?

AE is the best old school game we have. If anything is too much bs, after Evo2k6 we can adjust the rules for future events. Now there are more choices and more match ups to know. Some matches will be super-less. Only straight play without a bunch of crutches. I LOVE it!

Don’t hate. We can always play ST on the side and Evo could’ve been really weak and removed old school play altogether!!!

Don’t be hatin on Shirts. His o.sim is hella fun to watch.

[NKI]

Also, was the video in any way tool assisted?

The first tool-assisted vid I did was Volume VII (Evo 2004 Special). Everything before that was done 100% by hand. Let me tell you, doing vids by hand SUCKS…:sad:

I like how the first thing that comes up when you type NKI is this random boy band with like 80 people in it and hella Japanese girls screaming for 4 minutes.

Oh man, I can’t believe I actually watched that whole thing…

AE is the best old school game we have.

What’s the appeal of AE over ST…?

[Graham]

When I first started playing AE, grape1, me and my bro were loving the new variety. There is still alot of fun stuff. But CE Bison/Guile pretty much ruined the game. Once we got to experiment and find out all the bullshit, we realized how broken the game is. ST solely would be a welcome change compared to this game. CE Bison is just plain stupid.

[Kyokuji]

Pretty much.
A good portion of the cast is pretty much fucked against CE Bison.
At least O. Sagat couldn’t chip you to death like that.

[Graham]

Pretty much.
A good portion of the cast is pretty much fucked against CE Bison.
At least O. Sagat couldn’t chip you to death like that.

if by good portion you mean all but 1 character.

[Shirts]

When I first started playing AE, grape1, me and my bro were loving the new variety. There is still alot of fun stuff. But CE Bison/Guile pretty much ruined the game. Once we got to experiment and find out all the bullshit, we realized how broken the game is. ST solely would be a welcome change compared to this game. CE Bison is just plain stupid.

Agreed.

[Shirts]

Yep. Just hating on AE because it makes winning harder. I agree that CE Bison is a scrubs dream but so is Chun in 3s, Blanka in CvS2 etc. It’s good to have a character that separates the men from the boys.

Oops. You’re probably losing a lot to him eh?

AE is the best old school game we have. If anything is too much bs, after Evo2k6 we can adjust the rules for future events. Now there are more choices and more match ups to know. Some matches will be super-less. Only straight play without a bunch of crutches. I LOVE it!

Don’t hate. We can always play ST on the side and Evo could’ve been really weak and removed old school play altogether!!!

I have little problems against CE Bison overall. I played tons of games against Schafer and I threw his CE Bison like a rag doll.

[stream3]

you can bet that tokido is practicing CE Bison like crazy

[Graham]

you can bet that tokido is practicing CE Bison like crazy

thats what im hoping taquito(for you albert if you read this), that most japanese do.

[NKI]

And no, I never figured out what is going on with that st.RH/block at the same time. I’m thinking that perhaps it’s because of the delay between input and execution. I know that normal moves take something like 3 frames to come out after you hit the button. It’s possible that you hit the button, so the game has decided “the move is going to come out; make the sound”, but then you block a move before your move comes out. The result is that you hear the sound of your normal and still block.

I tested this out today, and the above is correct. If you do a normal move within two frames before impact, you will hear your normal move and block at the same time.

Doesn’t appear to be possible with special moves, though.

CE Bison is just plain stupid.

Could not agree more. :tdown:

By the way, here is a repost of the vids I linked to earlier, from The Grand Master Challenge.

Original link: http://streetfighter.jugem.jp/?cid=7
Mirror: http://nki.combovideos.com/ST/UFO.zip

On the original page, you can only download one video at a time, and that takes a while, so I put them all in one zip file. Enjoy!

P.S.: UFO.2005.07.31 - x731_k4.Komoda.Blanka.vs.Mayakon.wmv
Mayakon’s T.Hawk is on another level…!!!

P.P.S.: UFO.2005.08.21 - x0821_k15.Tsuujii.vs.Ani-Ken.wmv
Tsuujii is too beastly…!!!

[System_1]

P.S.: UFO.2005.07.31 - x731_k4.Komoda.Blanka.vs.Mayakon.wmv
Mayakon’s T.Hawk is on another level…!!!

Yeah, I downloaded those videos when you originally posted them. That match is one of my all time faves. The walk-in 360 rushdown is too much to handle! Plus the part where they’re both standing there for a bit, then does the air dive on reaction the the blanka slide. Too sick.

Also, I never thanked Gen-An for the help with HF Gief grabs. You were right about the distance thing, and it’s really hard for me to consistently get the bite. Much more worthwhile/guaranteed to just 360.

[stream3]

players who can win with t-hawk… much respect

[SweetJohnnyV]

For me, my toughest matches with Dhalsim are against a good Vega(Claw). His pokes have better range than most characters which means you can’t abuse his limbs like you do against most people. Also, Dhalsim moves in slow motion compared to Vega, which means you have a much harder time keeping him away from you than most characters. The flying antics are also hard to combat. Sure, you can try to stop his dives with a well timed st lp, or if you see it coming early enough a jump hk, but it’s hard to time those 100%, and if he’s crossing you up with dives on wakeup, there’s not much you can do except try to teleport out.

But, I’m just a scrub, so maybe I’m wrong. Does anyone(Alex?) have any good tips on fighting claw with sim?

…still wondering if anyone has any tips on this matchup? :wonder:

[ToXY]

Nice matches NKI, just a couple questions.
#1 Why did some matches have speed 1, some had speed 2 and some had 3?
#2 Why do Japanese players mostly use T.Hawk over Zangief even though i hear Zangief is better, is it because they like to win with a really low tier, or is it because at really high level and good execution T.Hawk is more effective than Zangief?