When are some good times to use N.Ken’s far st. RH?
Like, can it be used to set things up or is it just a good attack that could be used to mixup timing?
Also one last N.Ken question
After the knee bash throw what are some of the mixups that he can do that act as 50/50’s?
Believe it or not, Standing RH is a good poke and it stuffs alot of moves especially at midrange. There are a few attacks that stuff it right back but it’s so fast and hard to predict. I use it go gain some ground. Do it a few times and pop them with a DP. Once they stop trying to hit you after the RH just grab them with a knee bash.
After the knee bash you can jump in for a meaty attack and go for a combo, or walk up and do meaty low short or low fwd and kneebash again or dp if they try to reverse. Or you can just do a delayed dp if you think they’ll go for a reverse to begin with. You have so many option to choose from. Best to use all of them or make some up of your own. This will really throw your opponents off because it’s a real guessing game.
As I mentioned before…its all dependent on your style of play. Some guys prefer the flash, while others prefer to pick their opponent apart methodically by zoning :wgrin:
If you want to play an exciting super-laced match, play guys like Jesse or Bob…as the only thing I can promise you in a shoto match is that you will indeed have to “think” about every fb you throw & jumpin in relation to your position on the screen…it’s all a science to me 
lol maybe I’m too og for ST 
This is also why I have alot of respect for Shirts. He uses O.sim even though by the “scene’s” standards, N.Sim is better. But he’s comfortable with o.sim and gets the job done. It’s all about comfortability people. Don’t just assume N.Ken or any new char is better…experiment for yourself.
On a side note, I hope I don’t hear anymore complaints about fb spam…guys are starting to sound like the kids I play on kalliera. :devil:
Cool, so the RH is used to kind of bait a reversal then DP to counter the reversal, and since you’re at RH range whiffing it once is fairly safe. Then the whole point is to go for the knee bash because thats what can make or break the match.
Thanks
Correction, you would have to be a **FOOL ** not to pick the version of Ken (or any other character for that matter) that suits your style of play. In the right hands, N. Ken can definitely own. But in the same regard, O. Ken can definitely own too.
You can definitely reversal throw, because that’s the reversal I do the most (upkicks are too risky). Moves that are clearly meaty (Chun’s st.Fierce, Dic’s cr.RH slide, etc) can all be thrown cleanly no matter how meaty you do them. However, there are “magic” moves that just randomly can’t be reversal thrown sometimes. Chun’s st.Strong and st.Fierce (the palm) are two examples. I can upload Kawaks replays if necessary.
N.Ken clearly has better recovery than O.Ken on the Jab DP. I’ll count the frames if need be, but it is blatantly obvious to the naked eye.
PLEASE READ!!
These vids were not supposed to be released yet. There are five files that need to be corrected:
[Grand.Finals.set.1]Choi-Valle-Watson.vs.Chikyuu-NKI-Gian.wmv
[Grand.Finals.set.2]Choi-Valle-Watson.vs.Chikyuu-NKI-Gian.wmv
Darkumas-Jackson-John.P.vs.NKI-Gian-Chikyuu.wmv
Kuni-Cole-Sirlin.vs.Vermillion-Langriser-Vermillion.wmv
Chikyuu-NKI-Gian.vs.Cole-Kuni-Sirlin.wmv
For the Grand Finals (both sets), the WMV tag is incorrectly labeled as “Winners Finals”.
In the Grand Finals set 1, the vid ends after Choi loses, but Valle and Watson haven’t played yet.
The names are backwards for the Darkumas/NKI match. (My team is P1; his team is P2.) Same for the Kuni/Vermillion match. (Kuni’s team is P2, Vermillion’s is P1.) The WMV tags are also mislabeled.
For my team vs. Cole’s team, I forgot to edit out the part where they are changing sticks (about 45 seconds of no action).
Sorry about all this. If you have already downloaded the vids, please rename them appropriately. WMV tags can be altered by right clicking the file, going to “Properties”, then “Summary”, then “Advanced >>”, then where it says “Title”, click the text. I will be uploading the corrected vids (complete Grand Finals set 1, and my team vs. Cole’s team minus the 45 second delay) ASAP.
-Nicholai!
how many meg is this tournment with you big beards? hk master is homeless while training for the big game so not have much money, so he not have time dl such big game so i ask tell me true how many meg is this?
Oh gaawd…you guys crack me up. “I’m too OG for ST”
Man, that made me splatter milk out my nose! This is coming from a couple of guys who used to whine all day about tick throws in SSF2 on Xband. Yeeeeah…I don’t think that qualifies you as being hardcore oldskool og in my book :china: If anything it took enough asswhippins from OG players to convert you to play like an OG :karate:
And the talk about “spam” fireballs…hey that’s just how you play. Do what you have to do to win. However I do think It’s just funny when one bad fireball costs you 50-60% life and you’re cowering in the corner trying to find your way to the other side of the screen. Perfect time to tape down the joystick(or pad ) in the block position and go make a sammich! When I come back I may have crazy chip damage but atleast I know you’ll still be on the other side of the screen chunkin fireballs til the time runs out :wgrin:
But hey, I gotta bust your chops a little bit right? 
Can’t wait to meet you guys in person to show you that you aren’t the only pad pros in the world :karate:
Meh…I guess. But you have to admit that you have more options with N.Ken, No? 
Sorta. I hardly use it as bait but it can be used as bait. A better kick would be his fireball motion kick(looks like an sweeming kick to the head). It’s very fast and recovery is very good…chances are you wont hit them but makes for a good bait for either DP or throw. Just be careful with the throw attempts. I’ve been stuffed many times with counter attacks as well when going for the knee bash.
Lurks*
Edit - O Ken fights O Sagat better.
I think that’s the problem you playing on Kaillera.
English please.
Are you serious?
I was not made aware of any of this. I will pull down the torrent right now till the corrections were made.
EDIT: I cant remove the torent from the server. We will just have to repost after the corections are made.
the vids were great
the first Sirlin vs Gian match (where Sirlin wins by a good margin) looks exactly like my usual Sim vs (good)Vega matches 
well at least is somewhat comforting to see that even an amazing Sim like gian’s has some issues fighting against claw… makes me feel less stupid :sad:
but still I will need LOTS of training to be even remotely comparable to Cole’s or gian’s sims. Crazy stuff :tup:
just reseed the files that are flawed. most of em are fine.
A new .torrent would still need to be created to show the new CRC and filenames. Anyone whos downloaded the current batch can just copy the files over to the directory the new .torrent creates, and only the changed or new files will need downloading.
the footage is awesome, NKI thanks so much.
Haha…well since you’re gonna take some shots, i might as well then myself. You think the 1 bad fireball = 50% damage is funny…try making “some” players quit playing when they’re in the corner. Now that stuff is hilarious…even my casual non-hardcore buds who stopped playing SF don’t quit like that. Or the line, “you make it boring”…pleez, get that non-hardcore talk out of there. Yea, and shotos vs sim is an uphill battle, yet no complaints from me. That crack about the asswhoopins is also quite amusing. I also find it funny how when the moment the super meter gets lit, all fundamentals go out the window with the shoto…its all about the knee bash and throw…yet if it doesn’t land…no plan B. LOL, i’m just messing man, but don’t expect me to just idle while you get all the shots, as it’s a 2 way street. It should be fun to play you at evo…I know you’re good on pad, but if you want to play us on a saturn style go for it…use whatever you need.
You can’t be serious. How can you challenge best ryu player of world?
http://www.crazyasskim.com/SF_2_frame_data.htm
Akiba’s frame data page, partially converted to English. Made a post in the other games section with the same link, but more details.
Thanks go out to Drunken, Buk, Kim, and NKI. See my other post in the Other games for details.