Super Smash Bros. General - Patience and Spacing....or Whine and Moan

That was probably the hypest trailer next to Megaman’s for this game. I’m curious to know how the Star Punch is going to work. I can’t tell if you earn it through getting hit or by doing damage and also just how powerful the punch is going to be. Bowser was about at 35% before he let it rip and that shit KO’ed his ass. That’s fucking dangerous.

People are gonna be Hajime No Ippoing it up now. That counter looked like Sendo’s Smash.

Hell yes! He was not a huge surprise, we all saw plenty of hints leading up to it, but Little Mac is a welcome addition. He looks really fun to play and I plan to try him out.

Also, just for fun… the training clips from Punch-Out for Wii:

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuXU0uk5l20

O fuck yeah it’s lil mac,I’m definitely gonna see what’s up.

Any complaints about lack of hype can GTFO.

Also, does that gameplay footage of Mac make him seem like a faster version of Ike to anyone else? Guy’s got some crazy mobility going on!

Clearly the best reveal since the game was announced.

Mac be zhoomin. I hope those slides aren’t just his roll. He got dat jet upper tho.

I’m definitely gonna work to make him my replacement pocket character.

He has a very interesting set of normals. Recovery was looking a bit weak but whatever.

Felt bad for samus. Getting cracked like that but you know.

Let’s see how bad no air game is as a weakness in this game.

Cant believe we still have no presence of the Kinetic Kneecaps

Yeah that is a thing.

Let’s us pray for little mac.

Hey. All you people that were crying about the roster…

LITTLE MAC.

MEGA MAN.

SONIC.

They all told me to tell you:


FUCK YOU.***

Still waiting for Ganondorf…

I love it… Little Mac looks like they imported Balrog. Not that I’m saying this is bad. It’s just perfect. All he’s missing is the flippin’ headbutt. Dude’s even got a super…

Little Mac got that Turnaround Punch in his moveset. Also is it just me, or was did it look like he was wavedashing?

3 out of 30.

Not hearing you.

I just hope the leak list turns out to be false cuz that shit was ass.

Real rap

WHNAIOPASDA7Y0Q960HNFPABS780(HNUIHAIF89389Y-YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
LITTLE FUCKING MAC!!!
MY DICK HURTS!!!

He’ll be throwing roses as projectiles.

Little Mac; nice! If they actually manage to add Wonder Red to this game I won’t care who else they do or don’t add, I’ll be forever contented.

He looks so badass omg. Move over Peach cause I found my new main! His up recovery looks bad though, but that might be needed to balance out the rest of his epicness. I’m excited for this. This game is looking very clean. All these visual overhauls, balanced gameplay (so we’ve heard), and awesome characters. It’s too much dammit.

Ok, after nearly crying from reveal trailer, here is analysis. I have no raw numbers as you all know and this is mere speculation, but I like to think I am adequate at this sort of thing after 10+ years of doing it

‘Bad air game’ is subjective. Can’t trust Doc on this methinks(and who would? “Join Nintendo Fun Club” my ass…). DK has a ‘bad air game’ but he had b air and that was enough. Mac has a, granted, super shitty star punch recover move, but if that running dash from the beginning of the gameplay video is air accessible like it looks, it might not be as bad as we think.

Obviously, his ground game is the focus, and without getting a good hands on of the game, he looks like he can get away with it even though Smash is generally more favorable to air characters. Combos are in his moveset, which can mean great things, depending. I’d say he’s not the best KO man though(ironically) without his gimmick, which I won’t call yet on usefulness for lack of data. His ground mobility is astounding…IF that’s his regular dash. I doubt it is though: going through projectiles as he does doesn’t seem like a good sign it’s his normal dash, nor does him attacking out of it each time it’s used. However, I am not ruling this out, as in both instances, he was in the same animation as his dash with DDD at the beginning, and he was more dodging than running straight through them. If anything, the leaping overhead jump thing is already in animation when it goes through Mega Buster, meaning his dashing might jut be dashing afterall, instead of some sort of Dudley setup.

The most interesting thing to me here is the armor. Mac is already a speedy character as shown, but adding armor to his special moves could make him quite a threat on the ground. Armor is something that Smash doesn’t really touch on a lot, but if Metal Box is any showing, it can be powerful with a large window. And if nothing else, that chargeable straight punch has what seems to be a large window of armor, showing it tank things at different times. The counter, if the editting hasn’t been tampered with, seems to be much faster and more damaging than something like Lucario’s, but time will tell on this sort of thing.

The gimmick, if it’s anything like Super Punch-Out, gives me belief in Mac as a non-KO character. He probably has to build up his KO, then use it in one of his special moves. The move used at the end of the video is identical to his similar uppercut move earlier on.

Final Smash is Giga Mac. This is a statement

Supposed special moveset
-Up B Star Punch
-Side B That dashing lunge
-B Straight Punch
-Down B Counter

Pros
-Fast
-Has combos, going from jabs into an uppercut move and uppercut move into Star Punch
-Armor on a lot of moves
-Certain moves projectile invincible
-High KO potential(?)
-Awesome dash
-Great Roll
-Is Little Mac

Cons
-No projectile
-Gimmick based
-KO potential seems low to account for gimmick. Not many moves created a lot of distance.
-Bad air game?
-Counters are aways situational at best, potential waste of a move slot
-Took this long to announce

Variables
-Building up KO stacks: Easy? Cumulative or an all at once with the knock out potential? Does it have to be at KO for full benefit or are there smaller benefits before then If at KO indicator, does it go away at smash move? Generated by…?
-Bad air game is subjective. Game engine not explored enough to determine how bad lack of air game is.
-How good is KO skills without KO stacks?
-Armor and invincibility windows

Also, please include this in the Punch-Out Ring stage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2dOI43_xX4