Super Smash Bros. Brawl thread v2. wii want it now

I think you jumped ahead when reading his post there. He’s talking about PITY smashes. You know, when you’re given one because you’re losing?

I don’t think he has a problem with when it appears as an item.

The instruction manual leaked.

There’s a link to the scans over at Destructoid.

Captain Falcon, Jiggs, Ness, and Luigi are NOT in the manual.:shake:

Oddly enough though, neither is Olimar, so they may just be unlockables.

^ Nice. =]

Hope they’re unlockables.

It’s funny because it’s true, especially in the wannabe pro crowd.

More info from Curbside_Prophet on Smash Boards (info compiled by brawlcentral.com with edits by me for new info):

Pokemon Trainer:

  • He moves around to the side of the stage the the Pokemon are on. So if you’re on the right side of the screen, he follows to the right side.
  • As already mentioned, his victory/loss is with the last Pokemon used.
  • Final Smash is pretty effective. it can be performed in mid-air also.
  • He does appear on some of the moving stages, but only after the stage has come to a stop. The user saw him on Delfino Plaza during the stationary parts of the stage.

Charizard:

  • Flamethrower works exactly like Bowser’s.
  • Rock Smash: He picks up a rock and instantly headbutts it. Unsure about damage, but it did decent knock back.
  • Fly: Not as useful as it originally seemed. It looks a lot more like Fire Fox than Fly. You charge it, and Charizard takes off and spins. He’s engulfed in flames during it.
  • Once again, three jumpes were confirmed for Charizard. Gliding was not used, since the jumps were enough to get back to the stage.
  • Down A is a tail sweep, similar to Mewtwo’s in Melee. Had some knock up.

Squirtle:

  • Water Gun is chargeable. Basic range and pretty much what you’d expect.
  • Withdraw is very useful. It’s a lot like Yoshi’s Egg Roll. Unsure if he can be knocked out of it. Either he’s too small of a target, or he can’t.
  • Waterfall is OK. it wasn’t used much. Someone may have angled it at a downward angle, but it’s unsure if they did or not.
  • Good air control. It seems like Squirtle will have a good aerial game during play.
  • Squirtle is comparable to Young Link of Melee.
  • Down Smash: Makes water splash on both sides of him.
  • Forward Smash: Withdraws into his shell and lunges forward.
  • His double jumps is like an ninja cartwheel in the air.
  • Seems like the least useful of the three Pokemon, but should be a good character once his attacks are able to be controlled better.

Ivysaur (who according to Famitsu scans is a girl):

  • Razor Leaf: One big leaf comes out. Is similar to Link’s Boomerang. Unsure is multiple leaves can be sent out.
  • Vine Whip: On the ground it can be used as a continuous whip to stun opponents. Like Sheik’s whip, only more useful. It was hard to recover with it. It has the recovery range between Link and Young Link’s Hookshots.
  • A: She shakes her leafy parts, and they get bigger the longer you do the attack. This was seen and not performed by the person first-hand, so its unsure it you hold down A or tap it again and again. It provides good cover on both sides.
  • Forward Smash: She grabs the ground and lunges forward like a sling shot. She returns to the starting position after use. Her Down Smash is similar.
  • Ivysaur seems pretty useful. Her attacks are mostly leaf attacks and headbutts.

King Dedede:

  • Standard A is a three swing combo. If you continue to press it, he spins the hammer around and you see light blue/purple/pink colors.
  • Up Special is slow, but very powerful. If you want to cancel the jump, you have to do so half-way through or you will botch the landing.
  • The Waddle Dees don’t do much damage, but maybe if you spam them. They are thrown pretty far, so it’s a bit hard to suck them up with Dedede’s Inhale.
  • About Bowser’s size.
  • Lays down with his hand supporting his head from crouch (The lazy stance we’ve seen in videos)
  • Neutral A in air looks like an attack as he puffs up, but wasn’t sure.
  • Final Smash was good. The Gordos send people flying and the user got a few KO’s with it.
  • The user does not like Tank characters, but enjoyed Dedede. He’s slow in speed, but attacks come out quick. He’s powerful and heavy.

Wario:

  • His Bite can catch fast attacks. He was able to stop Pikachu’s Skull Bash. It’s good for stopping fast attacks.
  • Down A is a spin similar to Pikachu’s.
  • Forward throw is a giant swing from Wario World.
  • The Bike is easier to control than Yoshi’s Egg Roll. You can hop off of it at any point and the bike will continue to move.
  • Corkscrew is him spinnning around multiple times as he jumps.
  • Down throw is a basic slam to the ground.
  • Neutral Aerial attack is a spin in the air, in which he looks like he’s sky-diving.
  • Down Aerial is a chop that has some start-up lag.
  • Down smash is a breakdance that is similar to Peach or Pikachu’s, but lasts a bit longer.
  • Victory Pose: Does a donut on his bike and strokes his mustache.
  • Final Smash is the same, only he’s a lot faster and sronger.
  • Player did not like Wario at first, but after playing him more and more, he seemed very enjoyable to play as.

Other Stuff:

  • Peach’s Radishes appeared as an item in the match, even when no one was playing as her.
  • This person seems to say that Stafy was useful.
  • The jumpboard from Mario games is an item.
  • Ike’s Eruption has massive power, can kill without being charged apparently.
  • Charizard got owned pretty bad by Ike in one round of play.

More stuff to come tonight/tomorrow as WHobby is still going on.

ok, we get that you don’t like the competitive smash scene. You’ve already said you aren’t gonna be a part of it, so why are you still talking about it?

Because it’s easy to make super lolz.

I was just lurking on Smashboards, and I just noticed how much they rag on the SF community, and how ignorant they are about tiers. Just look at this thread:

No its not. Thats just been a rumor going around. They are just scans from Famitsu.

Yeah lol. A lot of people on Smash Boards are of the “tiers are an opinion” persuasion…whereas we SRKers know tiers to be fact.

I tried explaining it to one of them using the “guy who is equally skilled with every character has a better chance of winning with character A than character B” statement, he actually seemed to get it.

yeah, most posters on smashboards are an embarrassment, especially in the brawl subforum shudders

if SF was as popular as smash it’d have some equally stupid posters. the SFIV boards here are a preview to come if the game blows up.

We’d also ban C.Viper because she is going to use items.

:rofl:

Wow.

There are dichotomies with members on Smashboards just like there are on SRK, but I guess this can be treated as an inverse to “grass is greener.”

If you stay away from threads like, “Who Thinks Pikachu IZ DA Besss?!1!11! luls” and go to the Character sections you’ll see the difference. Many of the intermediate+ players actually play competitively in MVC2/CVS2/GGXX/3S/etc… and make references to other games when comparing certain influences in tiering and strategies.

If you notice, everyone’s pictures in the manual are on their home stage (or at least a stage representing their series) except for Sonic, who hasn’t had a stage announced yet.

…seriously.

They are just scans from Famitsu. Not a manual.

Just to add to this, the retards are usually people with join dates 6 months before the current date. …usually.

Or just go into tourney discussion and retards are almost non - existant

Theres a reason I troll 90% of smashboards. >__>

lol.

Stop looking at people who have join dates of less then 6 months and try going to character discussion like white shadow said.

Also he is correct. I would say the majority of the good smash players play other fighters competitively and even if they don’t know they do know how to play other games on a high level.

Hell, just last weekend my crew had a smash tourney where other fighters were being played and all the older guys played Tekken 5, CvS2, Garou: Mark of the Wolves, 3S, MvC2 of course, Melty Blood, and GG:AC.

Shoulda popped in dat Alpha 2 and some Hyper Street Fighter.

But yeah, stop using 11 years olds as your basis as to why smashboards suck. I could so the same thng with SRK and just make blanket generalizations.

Stop being ignorant people. SRK has been around so much longer then smashboards. Please at least TRY to be more mature, since many of you say you are.

Instead of saying smashboards sucks or w/e leave it alone. This is SRK, so of course there is alot of smash hate. There is no need to constantly bring it up.

I’ve honestly never understood the whole join date thing. Does joining an online forum before someone else instantly gives you a higher ranking on the credibility ladder?