Substitute for glue gun

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Well, by builder warned that the connection between the RJ45 solder points of a Paradise Cthulhu and an RJ45 cable are kind of loose and flabby.

His suggestion was glue gunning it.

That seems like a vague term. I assume, out of context that it’s not as simple as buy Elmer’s and squirting it on. If it were, he would have said Glue it with Elmer’s School Glue.

He said the liquid glue would dry and form a protective layer on the wobbly solder points.

Since I don’t know the cost of the glue, the gun, the thing to heat it, and the noob friendliness if the skills needed, since Id rather ask and get the right answer than assume, be wrong, and have to either undo or start over,I’m asking.

My brother suggested, it it’s to protect the solder joints, then keeping it from moving is the main goal, and thought bubble wrap and tape might do the job. We do have spare bubble wrap and tape. Wondering if that’s a wise improvise or not, or if it conditionally is, is there anything I should be aware of?

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The connections are not lose.
There screw terminals, they are only loose if you have no idea what you are doing.

Also you should never need a glue gun.

Just fire Stan and find your self a real modder.

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Remember I’m the design genius who doesn’t know HOW to do it oneself, but knows it CAN be done by a competent professional.

I thought the screw terminals were on the side and contain.the coded input. If that’s what you thought I meant, sorry. Remember, newbie, I don’t know the jargon well enough.

I’m talking about the multi wire connection in the center of the Paradise Cthulhu where the RJ45 comes and is the coded output for console adapter from NES to GameCube.

Now I question can whether that surgery if an RJ-45 umbilical cord was necessary.

I do have a pair or USB to RJ-45 and back connectors whose purpose is to use Ethernet cables as a long, hard-wired USB connection.

On the it doesn’t matter which ones you get as long as both ends are from the same maker. If what I heard is right. USB is an 8 wire system, and so is RJ45, so as long as you don’t need to process them in the middle, you can carry them and as long as the parts are separated, which stays true in RJ45.

Now I noticed a USB Large B female. I assume both a USB adapter and USB direct will workvwuth the PS3. If so, then can one plug a USB Large B female to RJ 45 adapter, and assuming the connector conversion is in a ready-to-use physical format and arrangement can be sent to an RJ45 Female (why not male? If the male snap pin breaks, if it were the hard wire male, I need to hire help. But if it were a female, I just need a M-M cable and they have more at the store.

I guess I should ask Google, Amazon or eBay first, but are there any USB Full B male to RJ45 adapters (prefer female, but if not, just add a double female adapter) premade to work with Paradise Cthulhu, (and maybe, whether same or different, Akishop PS360 or Brook Retro) ?

Based on what you’re saying is, even if it breaks, I may have come up with (neither first nor uniquely, but independently) a labor-free solution from the end user’s perspective.

Yes I know Stan and I are the most unlikely pair.

I have very specific requirements and most stick makers will change at most one thing they don’t fully understand.

Stan does have other clients. I don’t know what his other clients or jobs are. I don’t think he’s a wannabe, but if he is, my project will give him the experience to make him real.

Though I can’t speak for Stan he probably wants to increase his general knowledge so he can become a master stick maker.

And I understand that mine requires specialists, because I need these unusual features:

  1. A unique button hole layout of my design
  2. Double wiring for right-handed and left-handed layout.
  3. A DB37 port for swappable PCBs for multiple consoles.
  4. An easy way to swap button function, using 3.5 mm like handicapped user’s controller.
  5. A ground for each individual input, which I think is the easiest way to accommodate Edladdins Coleco Super Action with a remappable input system

That’s a lot. Luckily I have lots of time, (ot if I don’t I’d be dead enough to not care about my stick) And an income that is automatically generated over time, (similar caveat), and an understanding that I may have to do some research about usual things, and be patient and understanding.

He had some suggestions, but doesn’t see the vision as a whole. He only sees the vision part by part, as it is implemented.

His suggestions are short term, but gains more understanding when complete.

Based on when I asked, most “specialists” specialize in at most, 2 of those at most. Finding someone who can the 3 things they don’t know is rare.

I hope Stan considers this his University of SRK doctorate degree. The ability to know all 5 features I asked for, (with me being the first one who wants to do the individual grounds and found a practical purposes for it, Coleco with swappable inputs ) would be a well rounded stick maker.

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How I always imagine Trippletopper

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Substitute for glue gun

Having a good soldering technique
Having a good use of screw terminals and crimp connectors

Hot Glue should be never used on joints. If you needed to glue it down, you didn’t do it right the first time.

Only time you would use hot glue is as wire strain or wire placement, you use the glue on the insulation of the wire, and on a bare section of board where the glue can’t lift off any board components.

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First, I’m talking about the RJ45 hookup in the middle. Not the hookups on the side of the Paradise Cthulhu.

Second, is the main cure for weak joints is making it as still as possible?

Third, if 2 is correct, is bubble wrapping a good “redneck solution?” (Obviously not ideal because I called it a redneck solution.)

Fourth, I’ve seen USB extenders that convert USB to RJ45 and back to make longer physical runs. I think there COULD be a solderless solution if researched, but picking these components up off-the-shelf is not likely to work on it’s own.

Fifth, I have only at best a partial understanding. I admit “novice” might be giving me too much credit. I don’t know all the pitfalls and the reason why things are done a certain way. This naiivity makes me dream big, reality shows the limit, and I have the incentive to bridge the gap. If you’re within the system, you acknowledge the limits and only breach them when requested by a customer. But these brainstorming between me and all of you finds a workable solution.

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Still, you need good soldering techniques

Hot glue will just guarantee that you have a bad joint. Plus if you make a mistake and need to redo some wiring, you have hot glue in the way.

Go search youtube for soldering tutorials.

Hot glue is not a replacement for good soldering habbits

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Why you do not use glue, bubble wrap or any of that nonsense

Here a repair video of a console modder trying to fix stuff badly done

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I have enough knowledge to know I don’t have enough knowledge to do it myself.

Why is your advice always to solder when I SPECIFICALLY said I’m kind of a klutz and do not have that equipment on hand? To frustrate me? The build false confidence?

I first tried tried SRK directory. I used all the names recommended. I tried Etsy. I tried eBay sellers. Lots like to work in their wheelhouse, and rarely venture outside it. One on Etsy said they can do everything, but added an extra feature that was really complex and wanted me to fund it.

If they offer their usual technique, I told them the reasons why it can’t be the usual way, because it defeats a feature I thought of .

Most people don’t understand what I want, because I don’t know the jargon I explain it in certain way but they don’t understand it that way and vice versa.

I know talk is cheap. Because it’s easier to talk about over and over and get it right than to miscommunicate and blame each other for either it not working or making it worthless to me.

Do you know how hard it is to find a solderer who works on homemade equipment? Most random electronics repair shops will try to turn you in to Homeland Security thinking they’re in a sting operation to nail them for terrorism. Everyone is far enough where shipping 2 ways is $100. Not exactly a cheap option.

Is there a a fight stick solderer withing driving range of Cleveland Ohio, who can repair a weak solder with enough knowledge to hear of SRK and can distinguish a homemade fight stick from bomb parts well enough to not be afraid to touch it?

Therre was one guy in Medina County Ohio. Before I asked him to fully design my stick. He said it was way too complex.

May I have his info and ask if he can do a simple maintanence drop-off soldering to save in shipping. I just tell him to solder this wire here, that one here, and that’s it. About 5 minutes worth of work for less than an electronics analysis fee.

If push comes to shove. I can ask the electronics place 1 county away near Dad’s toe doctor. But that’s in April. I would prefer earlier.

By the way, are there any Stick Makers for hire that can do all these 5 unusual things:

  1. Custom hole drilling in the sinistersticks.com 180 arrangement?
  2. Double wiring for right and left hand arrangement?
  3. 3.5 mm analog button/joystick be remapping
  4. DB37 ports of easily swapping PCBs to let one stick work for all consoles I have.
  5. Individual input wiring because that is the only way I can think of to have an Edladdin CV SA PCB work with any input swappable as any other input.
  6. Following an existing diagram to work with Jaguar and pre-crash numeric keypads and making 8 way or 4 way stick to work with a (natively 16 way) Intellivision.

I would be lucky if I can find some who can do 3, let alone all 6. The fact Stan is willing to discuss it and the fact I’m doing SRK research and Atari Age research to make Stan’s work easier makes it possible

Seriously is any stick maker willing to learn all 6?

If not, may I have a simple solderer in driving distance to Cleveland, Ohio who is willing to touch things they didn’t make?

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Because that’s how you would attach a cable to the MC Cthulhu, its designed for a cable to be soldered to it. You want a solderless solution, got for the Brooks Retro PCB.

You never apply wiring to be secured by glue to a board to form joints. Never.

It can be done with a $10 starter soldering iron. You can get them at most hardware stores, electronic hobby stores, harbor freight, Amazon, ect.

You need to stop reading Tom Clancy books.

There tons of people who can do it for a fee, if you just ask.

Its not hard to learn to solder. Just bring up a how to video on you tube, do some practice on a already broken device or some preff board/ prototype board. It’s just 8 points on a board.

Plus you will need someone got to solder on your DB37 port and your 3.5mm audio jacks anyways
There no way around not learning how to solder if you want to do it yourself.

If you want I can point you to some good tutorial videos.

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Hello, I did ask. I just had bad luck conveying what I want properly. I get to get my brother as a go-between to be like an idea explainer both inbound and outbound too many people were uncomfortable because they did at least 2things they didn’t do before.

PS if the soldering iron costs $10 them in theory, all I need is other equipmrnt, like soldering material, maybe a well ventelated area, and a video of a ten year old doing soldering technique. (By the way, the poster says almost slightlly mockingly “if a ten year old can do it with a ten minute lesson by a knowledgeable responsible adult, why can’t you?”. And with YouTube I can compare many responsible adults.

And there’s different degrees of learning. I don"t have to learn it all. I only have to learn it well enough to be a paramedic of my own joystick equipnent, in case if loose connections.

Math:

A : pay someone:
Cost of shipping $8 each way (x2) = $16
Cost of labor for 2 joints ?;

Vs B. DIY
cost of soldering tool $10 (x1) = $10

So depending what else I need, DIY can save me money vs fight stick hospital costs on joint 2.

Can someone complete the list? What are other required materials.

Just like how o saved Stan time and money by buying a basic Ethernet cable tester for under $10, maybe I can save myself 2 way mail.

Thanks for helping me think I MIGHT be able to do it :smiley:

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Yeah soldering is about taking your time and learning a few techniques and not precision