Sub 1 frame HDTV/Monitor Input Lag Database

Needs absolute, conclusive proof not just limited to the RB2 test.

Yes, I’ve seen monitors where players have reported not feeling any lag (compared to a CRT) be reported as having lag in RB2.

The more honest answer would be 7.4 ms. .9 ms is the number for the signal response, as measured by a really goddamn expensive oscilliscope.

Please stop using the rb2 test. If you’d like to learn more about prad.de’s method, read here: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/specials/inputlag/inputlag.html

The number they apparently like to use use is black to white (to 90%)+ white to black (to 10%). The graph on the left is times to switch from 0% to 30-100% and the second graph is 30% up and down with the listed value as the peak.

They say it’s a relatively slow display. (It’s probably not the best choice for fighting games.)

I did some preliminary test with SMTT, shutter speed 1/250 and the U2312hm was 2ms faster than hannsg hh251hp.
The u2312hm is patched through a 5.1 receiver tho, will try to get an hdmi splitter and iiyama or evo asus for more precise results lateron.

Thanks a lot, I’ll check that one out… nice testing btw.

Anybody know anything about the Samsung 3D-ready 120Hz LED TVs? The model number of the TV my parents just picked up is UN46D6500 (product here).

I bought my current TV a few years ago and had a really hard time finding LCD TVs in the 40"+ range that were “mostly lagless” for HDMI and (more importantly to me at the time) PS2 component input in game mode. I know you can find good monitors now, but 'm just wondering if TVs in the last few years have sharpened up at all. If so, I might switch my TV around at some point. I’ll get to test this Samsung model first-hand myself after Christmas, but it’ll just be an informal test about how much lag I can feel, or the RB2/RB3 test whose numbers I don’t really trust.

(EDIT - Looks like someone on the first page in this thread anecdotally says that the input lag is 66ms… blech. Anyone can confirm or deny?)

Also, as a more general question, are 120Hz and 240Hz TVs more susceptible to lag? I would kind of think so because of the processing that is required between frames (maybe you can turn it off down to 60Hz on some TVs anyway?), but I’m not sure.

Edit: Also wanted to ask about the Alienware Opt X series particularly the latest Monitor:
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&cs=audhs1&l=en&s=dhs&sku=230-11305&redirect=1

As most of you know, the Alienware monitor was the Evo 2k10 monitor, but it is mysteriously missing from the OP’s list of lagless monitors. Despite the price tag, the newest one is a luxurious piece to own because it has full 3D functionality as well the potentially Lag free appeal of the original Opt X. I haven’t been able to find any lag tests for this monitor so I was hoping someone here could offer some insight on this monitor relatively soon.

I have the evo monitor and use it with my ps3, should I have the ps3 resolution set to 1080p or 720p for least lag for sf4? Or does it not matter?

Also Im considering getting that dell monitor but it doesnt have speakers, is there any other way to get sound?

Does anyone know much lagg a iiYama prolite HDS has?

PS3 will output 720p games at 720 even if its maximum output is 1080. It doesn’t scale PS3 games. As far as I know, anyway.

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TFT Centeral put up great article on input lag testing methods.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag.htm

I’ll be adding this to the first post.

As, you can see SMTT v2 is very accurate stopwatch test when compared to using the reference oscilloscope. Frankly SMTT v2 exposes and addresses the pitfalls of other stopwatch programs.

I live in a weird place and I can only get one of these

[SIZE=12px]P2770FH Samsung[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12px]W2753VC-PF Lg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12px]E2750V-PN lg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12px]E2750V-PN lg[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12px]S27A350H samsung[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12px]S27A550H samsung[/SIZE]

can anyone advise on any of these? None of them is in the list. Currently I have a 2233 RZ samsung (15 ms input lag) but I want to change it for a bigger screen

I can’t seem to find the answer to this question, but does anyone know of of any commercial grade displays that are sub one frame?

Does anyone know about the Z2 chips included with some of the new toshiba models? I was told that these new chips implanted in them completely eliminate lag (the current claim is 0.7 ms, but I can’t find any tests to verify this). Has anyone even heard of this??
POWER EDIT: This thread is insanely slow. Sony Playstation 3D Display has been out for over a month and precisely no one has posted any kind of results or meaningful discussion. Takes like five days for someone to respond to anything and lots of questions get ignored. It’s christmas time folks, step your game up. And Half of those freaking monitors on there are either unavailable, plain discontinued or they don’t have an HDMI port which makes for a relatively worhtless list for our purposes as Street Fighter players.

I’m surprised the LG W2363D. It supposedly has no lag and its a 120hz monitor.

Don’t know about other people, but if you donate a free Playstation TV i’ll be glad to test it for you :slight_smile:

The monitors that have DVI and no HDMI still work with the consoles with a HDMI to DVI adapter or cable.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2081&seq=1&format=2 $2.78

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2 $3.23

I’m currently using my (LG IPS231P) with a HDMI to DVI Adapter and it works perfectly.

Questions might go ignored because fact of the matter is most of the time it is people simply posting a display model and asking for input lag. When a lot of the time there is simply no solid input lag data on that display. Unless you are lucky enough for someone else on this forum or one of the review sites to test the display for you. You are going to have to be the first person to test that display.

If you go to HDTVTest site that is linked on the first post and checkout their review of newest Toshiba model (Click All TV Reviews) you’ll see that CEVO Engine (Z2 is just model range. CEVO Engine is their video etc processor) is just marketing hype with their testing showing more than 30ms of lag.

This thread is not suppose to be the be all and end all of display input lag data. It is simply here to compile the data we have. I spent hours going through the old thread it was really surprising how little people tested in that thread. Hell generally input lag testing is done by very few review sites as well. So, that is why we still don’t have any solid input lag data on this Playstation 3D display. If someone on this forum has that display and would be kind enough to test it the results if they are good enough would be added to the list.

Thanks for replying with the class I did not have when I posted my original message. I was just frustrated because I was lost in a sea of information and I really wanted to acquire one in time for christmas.

I would really like to talk to you over AIM if possible so please send me a PM with a way to contact you, I could really use a couple of questions answered. Thanks for the info man.

is there any difference between the Panasonic TC-L32X1 and the Panasonic TC-L32C3X? If there’s not, is 8ms delay too noticeable?

There was a video on youtube verifying this monitors lag as 10 ms but the account was taken down, the alienware OPTX AW2210. I do own it and it seems lag free from what I can tell. I remember these monitors being used at a major tournament but I cant remember which one, maybe a past EVO?