Sub 1 frame HDTV/Monitor Input Lag Database

I would love to! I’ll try using the Rock Band 2 test and post my results here.

Update: [VIDEO] “Current Delay Is 14 MS”

HP 2311x (LED) - 14ms input lag TN Film 23" 1920x1080

Referring to HD Box Pro:

I don’t think it is. I’m gonna be doing some testing on it soon using a Sony Trinitron CRT with component input and various LCD monitors including the VH236H EVO monitor and I’ll report my findings, but I’ve never seen any official test on it. You mentioning it here on SRK a few times is the only reported issue I’ve seen anyone say it lags over 1 frame.

I did report what I know at this time HERE on the Shmups forum.


On another note, there seems to be a lot of interest on the VH238H (Newer LED backlit version of the EVO VH236H) since it was on newegg for so cheap on Black Friday as well as the VH226H which was FALSELY reported to be the Evo monitor on sale on the front page here on SRK here:

I’d love to see both of these tested. I know Ragnorok64 picked up the VH238H and a local AZ university fighting game group picked up 3 of the VH226H monitors. Hopefully we can get some tests on those soon.

Personally, I just said fuck it and picked up 4 of the official EVO monitors. As a tournament organizer I’d rather not have any reason for people to bitch about laggy setups as some of them bitch enough already. :stuck_out_tongue:

-FrankCastleAZ

I’m very interested in the VH238H results as well. There are no hard numbers in all of the research that I’ve done. I will do the rockband 2/3 test and post my results here after I receive mine from newegg.

Guys i’ve been following this post for a week now and im having trouble finding a TV/Monitor that fits the criteria of input lag.
I would like a monitor under 20ms input lag thats 30-32 inches thats under 600 $ is that even possible ? I’ve looked everywhere as there are plenty below 600 i can’t tell there input lag by googling as most have not been tested

Your criteria seems reasonable enough to find. If you see a TV with your criteria at a retail store, test out the input lag yourself with Rock Band 2!

So I was going to test the VH238H until just now when I realized I no longer have a CRT monitor with DVI input :(. I’ll be of no help.

hi guys, got myself a Dell U2312HM and it’s really amazing for SSF4 AE PC. BUT I have found no ways to make it work with the 360. Tried a HDMI to DP cable, HDMI to DVI, and it just doesn’t get the signal. On the Xbox help it says that DVI adapters are not supposed to work with the Xbox, is that actually true?

Get a 360 VGA cable for 7 and change on monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083005&p_id=4010&seq=1&format=2

It will split audio, so you’ll need something to project your audio that accepts composite/RCA audio or get an adapter to something else like 3.5mm adapter.

You’ll also need a MtM VGA cable, which will cost you another $5 from monoprice if you don’t already have a million of them lying around from computers from the last 10 years.

-FrankCastleAZ

I am semi annoyed that I can’t test these monitors. I asked IT at work and they don’t have any CRTs with DVI input. Man, I though the CRT monitor that I’d gotten rid of was the one that didn’t have DVI in.

What other options could I have for testing?

allright, I was trying not to resort to VGA but apparently I have to. Got already the VGA cable, will try to get the 360 adapter for cheap (EU here)
thanks for the suggestion though!

Well I got it in the mail today. Let’s get the numbers out of the way first

Here we have the XBOX 360 connected to the Asus VH238H via HDMI. The XBOX is set to 1080p. The monitor is set to game preset. With the rest of the values on the factory defaults (I did a factory reset, then set it to game mode)

ignore the audio offset: That was done by my ear earlier. The video was tested by putting the guitar up to the monitor and having it flash. I did this test many times on this monitor and the video offset was always 14 ms.

So then I decided to test my Sony XBR CRT (for my non HD fighters). The connection was component cables and 480i signal. The results were interesting.

The video offset on the CRT anywhere between -3 and 0. I hope this helps people decide when it comes to the VH238. It seems to have 14-17 ms of lag (1 frame)

Now as far as the image quality, I was not impressed at all. I was disappointed actually. The colors are not accurate at all. I tried messing with the settings and I’m frustrated with it at this point. I am pickier than most when it come to image quality. I have my plasma and my monitor calibrated.

Sorry for the quick and dirty review, but I might edit this later on.

Interesting. I’m glad even the rock band test shows it to be sub 1 frame. How does the test work though?

Edt: I will agree on the colors thing. At default settings, these things hurt my eyes. I had to turn down the brightness and figure out some other settings. If you’ve come up with anything tolerable feel free to post it because I have no idea how to properly calibrate a screen’s colors.

My panasonic l32u3 was averaging a frame slower than the evo monitor using the hdmi splitter / stopwatch test.
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L32U3-32-Inch-1080p/dp/B004M8SC92

Thats not what I meant - using an hdmi splitter and comparing with another monitor is a better solution

Anyone know the US model number for the Samsung D6900 51" TV?

I don’t have an HDMI splitter on me and my other monitor is an old school CRT TV. Besides, according to the other tech thread, RB2’s auto-calibration is the best consumer level input lag tester; I trust its results (and SRK tech heads wouldn’t recommend it if it wasn’t accurate)!

Are you saying you have a CRT monitor? If so does it have DVI in?

Noone has recommended that in a while, to be honest. An hdmi splitter and cables are cheap.

If you use an HDMI splitter then can’t you only test it against another HD display?

That is true, it is difficult doing tests against a crt in any case - either you are trusting in your video card to have a perfect clone mode and not lag one output more than the other, or you are stuck comparing to other already measured lcds, or you might have to use something like an hdfury (though that will also introduce uncertainty ).

Any of these cases are still better than the rockband test, which, in the past, has not been proven to have the reliability of one of the other methods available to the end user.

Nope, it’s an old school Sony tube TV; just supports composite cables.